KQs IP vs tricky reg
KQs IP vs tricky reg

KQs IP vs tricky reg

1/3 NLHE 8 handed

Bad beat just went a couple days ago and now the room is all die-hard regs that I have a lot of hours with.

V - Tricky old white guy. Used to think he was a gentleman and would say "sir" as I normally would until I saw him watching porn on his cellphone at the table one time. He's a somewhat tricky player that can beat the fish with heavy value lines but isn't so great beyond that. He always tries to 1+ me and outplay me with some really strange lines. He sees me as thinking and capable and so he tries to bluff me a lot. That said, he's not a maniac and knows when to give up, but the money is meaningless to him so he's not afraid to put stacks in. Overall I would guess he's a slightly winning player. Stabs a lot when checked to, even MW, and uses large sizings, usually 2/3 pot+. Opens too wide pre and defends vs 3-bets too wide, can be quite sticky when faced with aggression post flop. I can't count the times where we played a 3-bet or 4-bet pot and he had a hand like 64s or 53s or A2s or something.

HH w/ V: V straddles BTN, SB limps, BB unknown fish opens 15, H to 60 UTG with A T, V cold calls BTN, SB folds, BB AI (didn't see his stack size) for 65 total, H calls, V calls. Flop 8h-5s-3h. HU on the side w/ V. I check, V bets 115, I only have 320 back, so I x/r shove, he calls. I hit nut flush and he says he "was ahead with a pair+gutshot" (which wasn't possible) so not sure but something like a SC or S1G.

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Fish opens 10 UTG, H sees K Q in MP and 3-bets to 35, folds to V in BB who cold calls, fish folds. HU IP.

Flop 75 - A K 5

V donks 50, I call

Turn 175 - 8

V barrels 80....

27 June 2025 at 08:31 PM
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This board smashes your range, not sure people will donk flop with weak hands. And some of his bluffs just got there. I would fold and station down with an ace or better.


Sorry forgot to mention, we're 800 effective with V who covers us. So about ~750 to the flop.


just fold to the $50 donk

You will rarely improve - and can't call down vs most turns. He is trying to let you off the hook so you only lose $35 on a bad flop. Let him. If you want to continue with the hand which I don't recommend, you can always call all the way down and try and bluff big on the river trying to rep AK or AA KK - but it's just a fancy play that is not needed.

His donk is terrible as you would of likely c-bet and he could of got a check-raise in and try and play for all the money or at least won $80+~ instead he just wins $35 + $10 - rake.

I'm not a huge fan of 3b an UTG open with KsQs 100bb deep as the hand plays well multi-way and I wanna keep the fish in. I would much rather 3b KJs or KTs - hands that don't play as well multiway. Plus it's a disaster if you get 4b. If you are deeper with everyone - like 200BB+ I suppose it's fine to 3b the KsQs because it will be hard to get stacks in with out the 3b.


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I call turn, River 3 he bets 210, I fold, he shows A 6


I'm never calling turn against anyone except a crazy person, and against the population I fold flop. Flop donk here is either an Ace or a draw and the Ace is ahead and draws will bet the turn and we have to fold anyway.


Lol tricky reg colf calling 3! oop with a6s and donking ace high flop


by Stupidbanana m

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I call turn, River 3 he bets 210, I fold, he shows A 6

Seems like a guy where you can just call him down and blast river bluff him some small % of the time. That player is atrocious.

Just fold to him most of the time when he does this and don't lose any money to this idiot.

If you do decide to get fancy - just play back at him. His range will be so wide he can't call jams and will just lose half his stack for no reason.


Maybe you don't run into tricky regs. You need to work on characterizing players. Maybe loose straightforward donk.


I would probably just flat preflop and evaluate. Our hand plays fine multiway, we're getting a decent price, against wide 3betters attacking what looks like dead money we could consider flat/4betting, etc.

I'm ok with the flop call to evaluate what happens on the turn (ETA: At least against anyone described as tricky).

And I give up on the turn now that the only real draw gets there.

GcluelessNLnoobG


Seriously, no one is going to mention the porn on the cellphone thing?

Like, this geezer is just watching a little Gulp Friction between hands, and no one at the table or employed by the card-room objects? How is that possible?

As for the hand:

PRE - seems pretty standard. I like the 3.5x 3B over the $10 open at 1/3. If the game is loose / splashy, I wouldn't hate $40.

FLOP - stop here. Is there a world where he's not 3B'ing pre with AA, KK, or AK? If he 3B's all those pre, then he's repping 55, A5, K5, or a flush draw?

I dunno. This is such a weird spot. I don't hate calling to see what he does on the turn, but I think I might prefer to min-click this, then re-assess depending on the turn card.

TURN - Yuck. I don't think we can raise now, because we really can't rep the nuts, unless we're taking this line with QJs and worse QXs combos. Are we? If so, then I guess maybe we could raise.

My thinking is this guy is just screwing with us. If the money means nothing to him, then he can start telling himself any story he wants, starting on any street. Like, in his mind, he has all sorts of nutted hands that most opponents will never have here, because he's a wild card. But in reality, he has air, or a flush, or he flopped 2P and is just going with it if we don't raise.

I think calling is the worst option here. I'd rather fold and wait for this same spot when we've got a better hand, or raise because we think he's FOS and there's future value in showing him we're not scared to play big pots with him even when our hand is kinda craptastic.

So...either fold or raise. If we call, I don't know what to do on any river.


by Stupidbanana m

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I call turn, River 3 he bets 210, I fold, he shows A 6

Alright, so...

This is why I think we can min-click the flop. He'll probably call, then check turn, and we can either bet or check back to take a free card. We still lose to weird stuff like A6ss, but we lose $30 less than we did here, and realize our equity for a lower cost. There's a remote chance he makes a nitty fold to our min-click, so we're giving him an opportunity to make that mistake.

The key is to balance by min-clicking him when we have 2P+ or the NFD here. He's doing the "bet until you get raised" thing. The obvious counter is to raise with value and bluffs, if we know he's going to turn top pair crap kicker into a three-street bluff.


Bad call on the turn, but as played bluff raise the river big.

(Anybody else think so?)

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