Turned nfd
12 nl new to table effective stsckd about 200. I raise 10 utg asqs. 3rd 4th 6th podition call. Flop ks2h3h. I bet 15. 3rd and 4th position csll.turn 8s. I bet 30, both call. River td. I???
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Give up flop. Give up river. If you’re gonna go for it bomb turn shove river.
Cbetting OOP into 3 players with not a lot of equity seems optimistic at best.
I cbet because it was a dry flop that favored my range and I wasn't crazy about check folding with backdoors and an over card.
On the river, there is about 170 in the pot. Would an 1/3 or 1/2 pot bet, which would be pretty big in absolute terms, get enough folds to be profitable?
Spoiler
I checked the river and it was checked through. 3rd position showed A3o and 4th position showed 43s. Obviously, terrible loose/passive donks. I thought afterward that a river bet of 50-100 would probably have taken it.
If I’m betting river I’m shipping with spr under 1.
This is too much GTO ... vs. live 1-2 fish, "broadway low low" isn't a great flop for you as UTG opener because they have all the "deuces never looses" snap call for set mining hands GTO never does and depending on how bad they are they can have small two pairs and straight draws etc.
They'll also have the KTo or Kh*h type things that aren't folding. And sometimes even as wide as Q3, which can call trying to "suckout" vs. your Kx.
Not saying you have to x/f, but don't bet because it's a good board for GTO.
Not really GTO. I thought the cbet gets through enough because they should all miss a lot and it looks good for my range.
Obviously, that didn't work, with 2 players calling with 3s for 2nd pair.
If you're going to bet the turn, bet like you mean it. I count a pot of 85 that you only bet 30 into. I'd call trying to spike two pair, too.
12 nl new to table effective stsckd about 200. I raise 10 utg asqs. 3rd 4th 6th podition call. Flop ks2h3h. I bet 15. 3rd and 4th position csll.turn 8s. I bet 30, both call. River td. I???
I'd just check the flop this multi-way, and make a delayed c-bet on the turn if the flop checks through we can make a big delayed c-bet on the turn, and barrel some rivers.
As played, if you're going to go bet-bet-bet, I think the turn bet has to be much larger, like an over-bet. But I don't like doing that in multi-way pots when our flop c-bet gets called. When we get to the river the way we do, we're probably better off giving up.
This board really isn't all that dry. Opponents can have Kx, flush draws, and straight draws. In theory they shouldn't be continuing with 2x or 3x, but it's LOL-stakes, and rec-fish do that all the time.
