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12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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by coordi

Yeah its true you are straw manning American politics when you talk about leftists being Marxist. Its complete nonsense

As for the article, pointing to one single headline as justification for you horrific prejudices and outlandish comments is reactionary sensationalism

Hey what happened to your Shogun Assassin avatar?


by Luciom

Yes if that had happened. But citizens weren't harassed by marines on US soil so...

Bush 1 used some actual military in norcal in the late 80s.


by coordi

Authoritarianism is deploying the Marines on US soil to harass US citizens

Gavin blows but you seemingly have no clue what any of this means

For the record, I oppose both those forms of authoritarianism.

Do you?


by wet work

Bush 1 used some actual military in norcal in the late 80s.

Oh I meant right now with trump II, the claim is the USA is "much more authoritarian" and I asked for the receipts *against citizens*.

No one is denying the state is much more authoritarian in enforcing immigration laws today. Which for people who like the rule of law is a win, for subversive individuals who want the state to disregard laws they disagree with is a loss


by biggerboat

Yeah wearing a mask in a pandemic is the same as masked unidentified armed men snatching people off the street and politically appointed "judges" to rubber stamp the masked men's actions without a lick of due process or oversight.

I'm not talking about masks. That ain't nuthin'.

I'm talking about shutting down businesses and churches for months at a time.

Fortunately, the courts eventually overturned the worst stuff that Newsom did.


by geezerchess

I'm not talking about masks. That ain't nuthin'.

I'm talking about shutting down businesses and churches for months at a time.

Fortunately, the courts eventually overturned the worst stuff that Newsom did.

You say "they arrested people for surfing alone" they say "masks".

Standard procedure, they deny they stand for horrific, unconstitutional, fascist practices. That's what they are


by Luciom

In order for it to be harassment, the person needed to have been targeted for no reason.

I didn't say marines weren't deployed and used to keep order.

Coordie said harassment. Harassment is when people in a position of power illicitly abuse of that to target people who don't deserve to be mistreated.

That civilian qualifies?

What did that guy do that he deserved to be mistreated?


by Luciom
by wet work

Bush 1 used some actual military in norcal in the late 80s.

Oh I meant right now with trump II, the claim is the USA is "much more authoritarian" and I asked for the receipts *against citizens*.No one is denying the state is much more authoritarian in enforcing immigration laws today. Which for people who like the rule of law is a win, for subversive individuals who want the sta

In my book you are a subversive individual.
Dodging lockdown restriction using loopholes is subversive.
You want the rule of law as long as it doesn't infringe your own little life.
This is pretty funny tbh.


by Luciom

What became more authoritarian for citizens in the USA? feel free to use your definition of authoritarianism

I never said exclusively regarding US citizens, don't start your patented goalpost moving again. Seem to be less checks and balances/scrutiny on ICE, current admin insisting on checking social media content and demanding usernames from the past five years of anyone applying for a visa. Current admin also seems to look more favourably on actual authoritarian leaders such as Putin, or Victor Orban or neo fascist like your own PM.
Banning journalists from White House press briefings for calling the Gulf of Mexico, the Gulf of Mexico.
Investigating public broadcasting and essentially threatening funding for such bodies.
Bullying law firms into giving $40 million in free legal aid
Essentially purging state bodies and filling them with loyalists.
Sanctioning bodies he doesn't agree with, such as the ICC
Pardoning insurrectionists when they support him, such as some of the Jan 06 crowd.
Lack of proper due process regarding migrants.
Attempts to curb free speech
Defying court orders and calling the legitimacy of judges into question.
An apparent encouragement of xenophobia, complete with funky "Be alert, report migrants" style posters.

Lots of actual authoritarians have done similar things, such as Putin, Orban, Erdogan, Chavez and Bukele.

So yeah I think Bigger Boat has definite merit wrt to his country becoming more authoritarian,, and considering he lives there, I reckon he's in a more valid position to make such a call than you or me, even if I disagree with his specific Nazi comparison.


by corpus vile

I never said exclusively for US citizens, don't start your patented goalpost moving again. Seem to be less checks and balances/scrutiny on ICE, current admin insisting on checking social media content and demanding usernames from the past five years of anyone applying for a visa. Current admin also seems to look more favourably on actual authoritarian leaders such as Putin, or

I asked for citizens, there was no goalpost change. Check the posts.

There is no limit to the checks to prospecting entrants and checking social media isn't authoritarian in the slightest. You just want a full picture if who the **** this person asking for the privilege to enter is, and if it is a bad one (and you decide who is bad being elected to do just that) you keep him out and that's not authoritarian. There is no abuse.

Same as you not inviting the drunk nazist uncle to dinner at your place isn't authoritarian.

You listed actions you don't like, but you didn't give a reason why you think they are authoritarian.

Not everyone who works in the press can be invited to be in close proximity to the president. There is no rook for all outlets. Having been previously considered a decent enough outlet to get the privilege isn't a life appointment. A selection has to be made so it's not authoritarian to select no matter how you select.


by Luciom

Point is Marxism was and is WORSE THAN NAZISM. The only amount of space any decent person or institution would give to it would be a full 0 with complete 0 tolerance in a normal society.Saying "I am a Marxist" should be treated like tattooing a swastika on your forefront. A lifetime sentence of exile and pariah status by everyone who isn't deranged.That Marxism still isn't a co

...Exile to where precisely?


by weeeez

In my book you are a subversive individual.
Dodging lockdown restriction using loopholes is subversive.
You want the rule of law as long as it doesn't infringe your own little life.
This is pretty funny tbh.

It isn't subversive to play by the book to achieve your goals. That's being smart at the game of life.

Subversion is when you always lose within the rules so you start shitting on the chessboard like a pigeon with dissentery, which is what your people do a lot


by Luciom

I asked for citizens, there was no goalpost change. Check the posts.There is no limit to the checks to prospecting entrants and checking social media isn't authoritarian in the slightest. You just want a full picture if who the **** this person asking for the privilege to enter is, and if it is a bad one (and you decide who is bad being elected to do just that) you keep him out

I don't gaf what you asked. Nobody stated it was exclusively for US citizens when opining authoritarianism, so yeah there's a goalpost, and look, you're moving it.

No- the things I listed are very clear cut examples of authoritarianism, and quite self explanatory- just not to you as you'd probably give a death sentence to somebody wearing a Che Guevara or Rage Against the Machine tee shirt. If by some horrible abomination you ever got into power, other actual dictators like Kim Jong Un would be green with envy at your specific levels of authoritarianism. So you're not exactly a good barometer for measuring what isn't authoritarianism, trust me on that one.


by geezerchess

I'm not talking about masks. That ain't nuthin'.

I'm talking about shutting down businesses and churches for months at a time.

Fortunately, the courts eventually overturned the worst stuff that Newsom did.

Yeah it was a global pandemic and such measures played a part in ensuring we didn't have a Spanish flu level death toll.


by corpus vile

...Exile to where precisely?

not physical, exile from institutions: a complete ban from ever working for any entity that takes public money and ofc to ever be allowed to be a political candidate or a public employee.

Pariah status.


by corpus vile

I don't gaf what you asked. Nobody stated it was exclusively for US citizens when opining authoritarianism, so yeah there's a goalpost, and look, you're moving it.No- the things I listed are very clear cut examples of authoritarianism, and quite self explanatory- just not to you as you'd probably give a death sentence to somebody wearing a Che Guevara or Rage Against the Machin

Well then say that, the trump admin is more authoritarian against illegal immigrants. Yes. Uncontroversial claim. Which has majoritarian support in the USA and is fully constitutional.

You dislike it. Accept democracy though.

Keep in mind other deragend people said it's like nazism lol.


by Luciom

not physical, exile from institutions: a complete ban from ever working for any entity that takes public money and ofc to ever be allowed to be a political candidate or a public employee.

Pariah status.

Yeah...you see now why you're not a good barometer for measuring authoritarianism?


The challenge "what's the worst possible reaction to mamdami to help him gain more votes even you are right of the merits" has just being won



And, not that it matters and I've said this before. I was around for nixon, and I voted for every republican presidential candidate until trump. I guess that would have made me a republican. So I'm anything but a lifelong liberal.

What is going on now isn't close to anything in my lifetime. I honestly and fervently believe we are close to losing everything i believe this country has stood for.


by Luciom

Well then say that, the trump admin is more authoritarian against illegal immigrants. Yes. Uncontroversial claim. Which has majoritarian support in the USA and is fully constitutional.

You dislike it. Accept democracy though.

Keep in mind other deragend people said it's like nazism lol.

Except it's not just against illegal migrants and I listed umpteen other examples of how America seems to be getting more authoritarian, which you just ignored.
Look, just promise me you'll never ever have any political ambitions at all whatsoever and we can just agree to disagree, yeah?


by Luciom

Point is Marxism was and is WORSE THAN NAZISM. The only amount of space any decent person or institution would give to it would be a full 0 with complete 0 tolerance in a normal society.Saying "I am a Marxist" should be treated like tattooing a swastika on your forefront. A lifetime sentence of exile and pariah status by everyone who isn't deranged.That Marxism still isn't a co

Nazism has like 14 years of power and managed to start a world war and cause a tremendous amount of losses to Western civilizations.

More reasonable forms of Marxism has been integrated with the proper West (not Russia or SE Asia) since the 19th century.

Also a prominent Nazi is still widely admired by many Western philosophers (Heidegger) and some of the other inspirations like german idealists are also admired in the West still.

I also think Marx had some very interesting things to say and ideas about philosophy. Many of the Austrian economists that libertarians admire had anxiety about Marx’s ideas and wanted to respond to them. I think he is quite the powerhouse of continental philosophy and phenomenology.

Meanwhile Hitler and the Nazis had no ethics whatsoever, intentional liars obsessed with power and fake history.


In other news, Germany is experiencing a massive amount of sexual harassment cases in public pools (obviously the vast majority of such cases are non-ethnic german men harassing ethnic german women).

this is the government reaction to that


Leaflets and posters showing red haired white women harassing brown men sexually in the water.

This is what we are fighting against.


He looks more like a sunburned disabled dude. What's with his leg? Also why is there a turtle wearing clothes?


by corpus vile

He looks more like a sunburned disabled dude. What's with his leg?

he is disabled of course so an innocent victim


by Luciom

he is disabled of course so an innocent victim

? I'm not getting the connection here. And the clothed turtle?

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