Is The Epstein Pivot That Big A Deal
How much of the original allegations are actually now denied? Is it not possible that the only thing that has changed is that a written "list" doesn't exist? I haven't followed the details, but it seems to me thar Epstein thought himself mainly as a glorified Hugh Hefner except he took the strategy too far. He realized that there are many rich, powerful famous men, who, because of their homeliness or awkwardness find themselves failing in the one area that regular guys don't. Epstein realized that if he could provide a way for guys like that to rationalize that pretty young girls actually liked them and that they weren't just indirectly using a desperate girl engaging in prostitution. he would have some of these men in his pocket in one way or the other. He wouldn't need a written list or specific blackmail demands to get what he wanted. He got greedy by sometimes rescuing/recruiting girls of illegal age because some of these guys apparently liked them. But he never turned the scheme that got him rich and powerful himself, into an official business with written records. He didn't need to do that to accomplish his goals or, later on to kill himself (maybe due to threats to his family if he didn't).
If the above theory doesn't align with the facts (especially if you add the fact that Pam Bondi is lazy and perhaps dishonest) it can be ignored. But if the theory is reasonable, it should probably be the one you go with since the alternatives theories require believing some terrible things about this country.
eh... I lost interest.
is a cover up of who flew to an island to have sex with children a big deal?
Knowing your background, David, not a great look, Dude.
Good lord this topic is stupid.
There is an "is" that is wholly awful and also compelling
We don't have to speculate as to the "why"
"Why wouldn't Biden out Trump if Trump was on "the list"?" Who gives a ****?
"What motivated Epstein to be a pedophilic hugh hefner?" Dude, what?
Lets say we accept the fact he committed suicide as he had made an earlier attempt and was on suicide watch. Which seems to mean nothing when you provide him with the tools to hang himself
Pam Bondi said she had the client list on her desk and needed to review. Please if I had the list on my desk I would be opening it immediately out of curiosity .
The reality is the list contains powerful folks on both sides of the political spectrum and I have to suspect now that Trump is on that list
Trump and many associates of Trump are on the list. Pam bondi is being put into a difficult spot trying to cover for him and the others. She looked like a complete idiot and liar yesterday when a reporter asked about the released 11 hour prison video. Trump looked like an idiot interrupting her and acting like it's crazy to still be talking about Epstein. The missing minute of the video is highly suspicious. There are highly suspicious individuals walking in and out during that tape. The fact that the area showing Epsteins cell is not on camera is highly suspicous. Notice how the talking point now is focused on just Epstein being the bad guy here. "He is a creep" "He downloaded child porn". In earlier interviews Bondi said she saw videos of Epstein with children. Now she says the videos were downloaded images from elsewhere.
Yes, we know that Trump told you to stop caring so your immediate reaction was to stop caring
eh...
name calling, labeling and generalization is the bastion of a scoundrel and the uninformed.
it's what Prats do when they dont have any knowledge or to attempt to divert from the real issue being discussed.
only the weak practice this action... well, the weak and Children. Feel free to pick which category to which you belong.
eh...
name calling, labeling and generalization is the bastion of a scoundrel and the uninformed.
it's what Prats do when they dont have any knowledge or to attempt to divert from the real issue being discussed.
only the weak practice this action... well, the weak and Children.
Not sure what this response has to do with anything as I didn't call you any names or label you as anything
But ironically, many of your recent posts in P&S are calling people names and labeling people, so maybe you are just repenting?
Manifestation of a guilty conscience
How much of the original allegations are actually now denied?
If the above theory doesn't align with the facts it can be ignored.
But if the theory is reasonable, it should probably be the one you go with since the alternatives theories require believing some terrible things about this country.
you're assigning 'value' to 'this country'... given all things being true and that Epstein ran an intelligence operation, how is it that you automatically assign it to 'this country'?
Let's just go down this conspiratorial path and give it LOOSE credence... if you are running an intelligence operation for a sovereign nation against another sovereign nation(s), are you conducting operations in your country of origin, or are you conducting operations in the target country?
Not sure what this response has to do with anything as I didn't call you any names or label you as anything
But ironically, many of your recent posts in P&S are calling people names and labeling people, so maybe you are just repenting?
Manifestation of a guilty conscience
see ^... I told you so.
bro, you're not as smart as you think you are... I assure you.
Reminder that there's no such thing as an "Epstein files" but "the list" is old news to anyone paying attention. Also he recorded people on all his properties and hotels not just on the island.

Yeah who cares, M*ssad blackmailing politicians and CEOs is such a nothing burger. Did you watch the game last night?
Reminder that there's no such thing as an "Epstein files" but "the list" is old news to anyone paying attention. Also he recorded people on all his properties and hotels not just on the island. Yeah who cares, M*ssad blackmailing politicians and CEOs is such a nothing burger. Did you watch the game last night?
lol nice bullsh*t list. if hillary clinton is on the list, donald trump is definitely on the list.
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU08/...
Jeffrey Epstein described himself as Donald Trump’s “closest friend” and claimed intimate
knowledge of his proclivity for sex, including cuckolding his best friends, according to
recordings obtained exclusively by the Daily Beast.
The convicted pedophile even boasted of his closeness to Trump and his now-wife Melania
by claiming, “the first time he slept with her was on my plane,” which was dubbed the Lolita
Express.
He wouldn't need a written list or specific blackmail demands to get what he wanted.
He didn’t need a written list or overt blackmail because he was just exploiting human nature to seek status. Epstein had an image of extreme status with wealth, elite connections, private jets, rare access and privilege. High-status and status-seeking individuals were drawn to him not just for what he had, but because proximity to him conferred status on them, like chimps wanting to be around the alpha. Once they were in, silence didn’t require threats, merely the fear of being ostracized from that power by losing access, privilege, or being publicly exposed, etc, ie losing their status. Like they say: Power corrupts. Full stop.
IF it's true that there's no Epstein client list it's a big deal for the people that have been declaring with 100% certainty that there is a list and it's going to expose the pedophile elite. I agree that there isn't much implication to Epstein's power to influence people, as he never needed an official list to do that. It also doesn't mean he wasn't an intelligence op. It really has no implications on the conspiracy theory aspect itself.
What it does have implications on are again, those people that claim with 100% certainty that there was a list and who would be on it.
IF it's true that there's no Epstein client list it's a big deal for the people that have been declaring with 100% certainty that there is a list and it's going to expose the pedophile elite. I agree that there isn't much implication to Epstein's power to influence people, as he never needed an official list to do that. It also doesn't mean he wasn't an intelligence op. It real
The absence of the official list proves the elite is all pedophile according to some "experts"
W.W. does a nice break down for the uninitiated... and the marginalizing name callers.
Nothing to see here folks the whole thing is a conspiracy theory. That's why Ghislaine is in jail (for trafficking kids to clients that don't exist).
Life must be so easy when you're lobotomized.
Nothing to see here folks the whole thing is a conspiracy theory. That's why Ghislaine is in jail (for trafficking kids to clients that don't exist).Life must be so easy when you're lobotomized.
most people say its not big deal that we are ruled by genocidal pedophile elites so I guess its ultimately not a big deal.
Trump was great buddies with Epstein. Trump is not going to release “the list”. If you ever thought he was going to, you’re a moron.
Someone else will come along and promise to release the real Epstein files in 10-15 years.
