Moderation Questions

I misunderstood, I thought you were making a point about conservatives not making a tautological point that people that think like you think like you.

You say the same words sometimes but the reasons are far different. They think you will burn in hell eternally.

I'm not misrepresenting him at all. He directly said what I claimed he said and did it multiple times. He never apologized for it or corrected it.

edit: and for the record, I have screenshots. Don't let him lie to you and say he didn't say it.

I find this incredibly disheartening to read.

Calling Luciom a ‘long time poster’ is hilariously wrong. Until a year ago or so this was somebody’s gimmick account that suddenly went full nuclear goosestepping posting more per day than anyone in this forum

But with that being said now that we’re past the point of no return I agree that banning him is pointless ASSUMING we are all playing by the same rules

As long as nobody gets banned for anything they say to a guy who has no leash, I’m good with it

I just find it odd that the policy appears to be you can post like a nazi as long as you do it a lot.

It’s definitely odd, but selfishly as long as I’m being given the cover of darkness of this precedent I will get some catharsis out of saying far worse things to him and about him or (insert your random imbecile troll) knowing I’m safe

I mean I could maybe if I squint my eyes see him as a fascist, but nazi? I’m not seeing it. He has very austere views about third world immigration but he doesn’t oppose it altogether. More like Japan-style immigration policy of very rare citizenship for immigrants and only for the very best.

He also doesn’t, as far as I can tell, support any antisemitic conspiracy theories.

He seems to care about Italians very little, in fact he said if he was in a position to get away with it he would rape the state as much as possible for the benefit of his immediate family.

Yeah his views are weird as hell a lot of the time and he has disgusting views about the value of human life but none of those positions scream nazi to me.

I mean he’s a Nazi to the extent that you equivocate nazi with ‘supporter of a police state that has the indiscriminate right to execute its own citizens en masse because they are different’

It’s splitting hairs, and I don’t care enough about that bitch ass little piece of **** incel to split them

You don't think supporting the killing of those on the other side of the spectrum from him is at least as bad?

Do you think it is fair to say that supporting the killing of those on the left is posting like a nazi? Even if he only brought himself to say that out loud one time, EVERYTHING HE POSTS is in line with that belief. I'm constantly in awe that his behavior is excused here.

Yeah there have been multiple times I've seen a post calling all liberals horrific scum that have caused all the worlds problems and loaded up the mod tools to slap him with a ban and I had to think about how hes basically a right wing twitter influencer and how this is what MAGA has been moving toward since Jan 6.

"He serves a purpose" is somewhat reductive but relatively accurate

Luciom is a real person with real beliefs that align with more MAGAs than anyone would care to admit

Anyways, not a huge fan of posting modding philosophy about Luciom like he isn't reading this.

In general I think posters have largely found a balance between having normal conversation and hurling mindless insults

"Anything we can do to eradicate people like you [he was responding to me simply saying I was a leftist] from existence forever should be legal, and morally imperative"

That is more than simply calling liberals "horrific scum." It's the type of thing that should not be tolerated among civilized people.

He then went on to say that the only use for me and others like me was as organ donors.

"He serves a purpose" is...I think you can imagine how I feel about that justification, so I'll leave it unsaid.

Yeah this is disgusting. He should have at least received a temp ban for it.

he probably did fwiw

He certainly did not. Multiple mods were participating in the thread, they all carried on as if nothing happened despite my reporting it. A few posts later, you actually called Luciom a "net-positive" for the forum, in fact. This was all in this thread on February 11th. You can see for yourself. Nothing at all happens to him. It's a disgrace.

I think that was my first day as mod so I apologize if I didn't quite hit the ground running

Not blaming you, really, just expressing my disgust with you know who more than anything.

"every accusation is a confession" with you guys

the median japanese take on immigration is far far far more restrictive than mine.

I have issues with unfiltered immigration especially with birthright citizenship or with significant constitutionally mandated welfare state for residents. and especially if there is no draconian punishment of immigrants for violating social norms.

I have also stated that my preferred model of immigration among real world ones would be the Qatari/UAE one, you can have 60%+ foreign born as long as they are barred from citizenship, have no welfare rights and are tier 2 residents.

on paper I am at the basic open borders at no welfare and no citizenship model (Friedman) but you need to change the constitution including in the USA before that makes sense (no free school for immigrant children, no free ER, both in the USA exist because of SCOTUS decisions).

i am not a supporter of a police state and you shouldn't lie. I am a supporter of using the monopoly of violence with fewer slrrstraints after changing the law to allow for it to solve problems at their root.

I don't support executing people because "they are different". I support executing people after a trial if they commit heinous acts as defined by the law under the limits of the constitution. Which btw is legal in the USA (SCOTUS reversed the insanity of considering the DP unconstitutional ) and was the norm for a lot of American history.

you guys have no sense of history and have been brainwashed to consider all forms of opposition to a specific universalist leftist value system as nazism.

To be clear one final time, I don’t want you or any other current poster banned.

I was pointing out that there’s little distinction between your posted views and the views of the recently banned poster. Thinking you can finesse the Nazi comparisons by saying “I’m only supporting Nazi actions if they’ve been ratified by democratic elections” doesn’t hold any water, and you know this.

Your posting displays a lot of conservative values. You might need to reflect on that if you think you’re no longer a conservative.