2025 World Series of Poker May 27th - July 16th
2025 World Series of Poker May 27th - July 16th
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2025 World Series of Poker May 27th - July 16th

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18 December 2024 at 05:14 PM
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by TheFly m

Bellagio doesn’t spread 15/30, 20/40 anymore?

Yea 15/30 and 30/60

Riveting derail though boyz


by TheFly m

Bellagio doesn’t spread 15/30, 20/40 anymore?

I was looking for something in the 6-12 to 8-16 range and there was nothing. I remember not too long ago the Venetian had a really fun 8-16 game but it wasn't running when I was there. Maybe I'll try the B 15-30 next time if I can get my confidence up.


by Danny Analton m

I was looking for something in the 6-12 to 8-16 range and there was nothing. I remember not too long ago the Venetian had a really fun 8-16 game but it wasn't running when I was there. Maybe I'll try the B 15-30 next time if I can get my confidence up.

Unfortunately Venetian hasn’t run a regular 8-16 game in almost 15 years. Orleans around 2-3 years ago was able to get a table going but it looks like it died out.


by BullyEyelash m

16/694, 2.4M

31/556 2.3M


by Danny Analton m

I wonder if Limit will make a comeback. I believe California is the only place where it's still going strong. Faster, more friendly game. One or two hands won't make or break your night. It's the game I grew up on and the game I still prefer.

Here is a recently updated list of live LHE games running regularly throughout the US: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/53/mi...


by Danny Analton m

Unless you live in CA I don't think you have a choice. Last time I was in Vegas the only limit game I could find in town was a nitty 4-8 rake-trap at the Horseshoe

No, I meant in the late 00’s when all 10-20 15-30 seemed to vanish overnight


Anyone know Simon LΓΆfbergs pokerstars nickname?


I wonder if there’s somewhere else this fascinating (and latest) rumination on the death of NLH, the explosion in popularity of PLO, and the allure of fix-limit games can unfold.


We give PokerGo a lot of grief, and often rightly so. But we need to take a moment to recognize the phenomenal job they have done this year of finding excellent new broadcasting talent. Nick and Ali are the GOATS, of course, but Bleznick has been an absolute revelation, Tristan Wade was excellent, and Jeremy Becker was very good. All of these guys add tremendous insight AND are quite entertaining in the booth.

Brent Hanks has also become top notch. Very entertaining, good voice, and enough poker talent to add real insights. And Jeff Platt does an excellent job in the booth making them all comfortable, drawing out their insights, and doing a very good job with the play by play. (It really makes you wonder why they bother having Tuchman in the booth while Platt is out interviewing players during the earlier days of the tournament. Just have Platt stick to booth work and have the woman reporter handle the interview stuff. She’s very good and I’m disappointed I don’t remember her name.)

It’s so refreshing to have Lon finally put out to pasture—I hope! Please tell me they’re not going to roll him out in the next couple of days. PokerGo appears to finally have recognized that it’s no longer 2006. They’ve got somebody with a real eye for talent bringing in fresh and better voices. We are all benefiting from that, and they are to be congratulated for these developments.


Notables to Day 5:

Chad Power
Kenny Hallaert
Adam Hendrix
Will Kassouf
Michael Mizrachi
Stephen Chidwick
Isaac Haxton
Thomas Boivin
Greg Merson
Brian Hastings
Viktor Blom
Asher Conniff
Esther Taylor
Max Neugebauer
Joseph Cheong
Nate Silver
Brad Owen
Henrik Hecklen
Leon Sturm
Damian Salas
Ebony Kenney
Nadya Magnus
Jeff Gross


by Rmbxr9 m

It's pretty amazing that in 6 years(?) Kassouf hasn't been able to add any other little sayings to his catalog. Just the same 3-4 sayings over and over like a moron

Sat next to him on day 2 of the main. He literally does not shut up for a second


by Defarse m

Notables to Day 5:

Chad Power
Kenny Hallaert
Adam Hendrix
Will Kassouf
Michael Mizrachi
Stephen Chidwick
Isaac Haxton

Thomas Boivin
Greg Merson
Brian Hastings
Viktor Blom
Asher Conniff
Esther Taylor
Max Neugebauer
Joseph Cheong
Nate Silver
Brad Owen
Henrik Hecklen
Leon Sturm
Damian Salas
Ebony Kenney
Nadya Magnus
Jeff Gross

Same table today.

EVENT CENTER GOLD 645 1 Igor Dursel Belgium 420,000 17
EVENT CENTER GOLD 645 2 Joey Padron United States 1,245,000 50
EVENT CENTER GOLD 645 3 Michael Zulker United States 470,000 19
EVENT CENTER GOLD 645 4 Stephen Hesse United States 1,460,000 58
EVENT CENTER GOLD 645 5 Isaac Haxton United States 1,915,000 77
EVENT CENTER GOLD 645 6 Alessandro Predaroli Italy 560,000 22
EVENT CENTER GOLD 645 7 Fabrice Bigot France 1,165,000 47
EVENT CENTER GOLD 645 8 Yuchen Chen United States 1,610,000 64
EVENT CENTER GOLD 645 9 Stephen Chidwick United Kingdom 1,940,000 78



by Wilbury Twist m

...Fast forward to 2025, and all we see on these forums are people who wax about how lively and gregarious poker players were in the mid-2000s, and how boring and robotic they are now. (Funnier still, people complain about how all poker players stuffed themselves behind a hoodie and sunglasses, but then when a talkative player emerges, we hear nonstop how annoying he/she is.)

I haven't thought about Khan in ages. Yeah, he seemed to stick out amongst the bantering bunch from the early 2000s with more of a goofy yet good style of play.

It goes to show how "TV poker" has changed these days. God forbid somebody talk trash, needle another player, slow roll, etc. Deeb tries, but Deeb is unlikeable.

It's unfortunate but lively, ****-talking, fun-to-watch poker slowly died and was perfectly correlated with the rise of Matusow's pain & back issues increased.

Negreanu's still the same, but he can't hold down the fort anymore. Someone from the new generation has to take over.

Speaking of Kassouf...... πŸ˜ƒ


Bubble coverage was a disaster. So was how they paid bubble boys. 0 thought given.

Let's say there wasn't a 30k seat. 3 people busted, 2 of whom would cash, 1 would be stone bubble.

When you deal the hand to see who's the "stone bubble" Wouldn't the worst ranking hand of the 3 be the bubble boy?

So tell me how the Best Hand won the 30k seat PLUS 10k cash?

The worst hand (Joshi) should've got the 30k seat. The other 2 should've got the full 15k mincash.

Am I crazy or is WSOP run by room temp IQ's?


by SetTheLine m

Bubble coverage was a disaster. So was how they paid bubble boys. 0 thought given.Let's say there wasn't a 30k seat. 3 people busted, 2 of whom would cash, 1 would be stone bubble.When you deal the hand to see who's the "stone bubble" Wouldn't the worst ranking hand of the 3 be the bubble boy? So tell me how the Best Hand won the 30k seat PLUS 10k cash?The worst hand (Joshi) sh

If more than one person busts on the stone bubble, they all bust in the same place and share the mincash money. So if there wasn’t an extra prize for the bubble and three people busted, they would all get 2/3rds of a mincash. This was a special situation where the WSOP was giving out a prize outside of the regular prize pool, so they can decide to award this however they want. It seems reasonable to give it to the best hand since it’s a better prize than a mincash.


Thanks I guess it makes sense, and I realize they can do whatever they want. The difference between 40k in prizes vs 10k in prizes doesn't seem right.

IMO the 30k seat guy shouldn't have got 10k cash ontop.


the bubble coverage really was a disaster. TD made that an absolute mess.

First, they've got to figure out a way where the TD doesn't have to run a mile around the room to get to every table every hand and pausing play (for no reason sometimes) and stopping the dealer when the guy is already drawing dead or needs a biggest miracle ever. Have two run around and the next one goes to the next table in advance so that can be sped up. It's not hard to do.

The TD was arguing with a player for awhile instead of just getting to whatever that was after and going to the hands. The bubble is already very slow and Jack only made it worse for no reason.

Have the cameras do their sideshow prize thing while resuming the tournament, there was no reason to do that and have the tournament still stopped (lol at the stupid oversized check btw).

GJ to the 400th guy with the phone out recording every bubble hand, you did a great job the other 399 people couldn't do.


by Defarse m

Notables to Day 5:

Chad Power
Kenny Hallaert
Adam Hendrix
Will Kassouf
Michael Mizrachi
Stephen Chidwick
Isaac Haxton
Thomas Boivin
Greg Merson
Brian Hastings
Viktor Blom
Asher Conniff
Esther Taylor
Max Neugebauer
Joseph Cheong
Nate Silver
Brad Owen
Henrik Hecklen
Leon Sturm
Damian Salas
Ebony Kenney
Nadya Magnus
Jeff Gross

also Greg Person


I thought the coverage yesterday was pretty poor overall, except for when the Haxton/Locquet and Kassouf/Merson tables were on.

Yeah the thread will hate but idc, dropping Norman Chad from the broadcasts is a mistake and has made it go downhill. His jokes made me laugh and brought colour to the broadcast, he also loves the game and approaches it from a different angle than gto wizards. Who doesnt love watching someone bluff with squadoosh end up with nuclear squadoosh on the river?


by TiltPocketAces m

also Greg Person

Who?


by SootedPowa m

I thought the coverage yesterday was pretty poor overall, except for when the Haxton/Locquet and Kassouf/Merson tables were on.Yeah the thread will hate but idc, dropping Norman Chad from the broadcasts is a mistake and has made it go downhill. His jokes made me laugh and brought colour to the broadcast, he also loves the game and approaches it from a different angle than gto

Are Lon and Norm confirmed to be off the broadcast completely this year? Not doubting it, but I haven't seen anything official.

My take has always been that they're good on edited shows and terrible on streams.

Ali/Nick is the nut-nut combo for streams. I found Blez to be more good than bad. I also thought Becker was solid last night.


Owen on the FT just sitting there like a boring blank create a character


by DogFace m

Are Lon and Norm confirmed to be off the broadcast completely this year? Not doubting it, but I haven't seen anything official.

My take has always been that they're good on edited shows and terrible on streams.

Ali/Nick is the nut-nut combo for streams. I found Blez to be more good than bad. I also thought Becker was solid last night.

Heard on the grapevine they've relegated Norm to the edited broadcasts for CBS afterwards, nothing confirmed though. It's a mistake imo and he brings a lot from a different angle and type of humour that all of these other poker experts cant bring. Personally I dont agree on the edited broadcasts thing, was fun to hear him commentate live the last decade.

Bleznick is good and I enjoy his commentary a lot. I particularly like his honesty and trolling of bad play. if I could provide some constructive criticism for him it would be to say you dont have to talk over the players every time.

Nick and Ali are obviously great. I will say this though, it got a bit annoying a couple of times last year when they broke down to just giggling for several minutes straight. However when they are on point they are the best.


by Defarse m

Who?

Just some person named Greg, i.e. β€œa Greg person”.


Zeebo’s Theorem holds once again - one hell of a call by Chen there.

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