Going North / Penalties?
I was playing at the WSOP last week and I stacked 2 guys in one hand.
A few minutes later this guy has 5K in front of him. I ask the dealer to ask him what he bought in for. He says 2500, then he takes the extra 2500 off of the table.
They can always have the excuse at that place that they don't know any better, because half of the dealers are pretty new.
I'm just curious what are the penalties if any if someone does this? This guy just kept playing like nothing happened. I don't know the circumstances about how it happened. If he did it on a dealer change or what.
Also going south, if any stories about that one?
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Assuming this is a cash game, a player can add on any time they want up the table maximum. Generally, a player cannot reduce their stack once it is in play. That said, I'll have extra chips so that when I get to the table, I'll put a buyin in my pocket. That is perfectly acceptable.
People will add more than the table maximum if no one or the dealer objects.
This happens all the time as some pro poker players will do anything to get an edge so if it means going north to cover the fish they’ll try to get away with it even when they know it’s against the rules. I’ve never seen anyone get penalized for it but maybe if they’re a repeat offender they’ll get a warning from the floor. However people typically don’t object to others going north because it makes them look like a b**** so offenders get away with it frequently
What penalties are there is cash games period?
Sure can be sent home for night, week, even banned perm. What other penalties are really penalties. Missing a hand or round really isn’t a penalty playing cash. Blinds aren’t going to escalate. You won’t be putting in blinds if sitting out.
In time game, there is a small cost, but if they sit you out for long enough, even that nulls out.
This happens all the time as some pro poker players will do anything to get an edge so if it means going north to cover the fish they’ll try to get away with it even when they know it’s against the rules. I’ve never seen anyone get penalized for it but maybe if they’re a repeat offender they’ll get a warning from the floor. However people typically
I just stacked this guy, and I had about 8K on the table. I didn't' want him on my left trying to angel shoot and get in for an extra 5K. He probably thinks I'm a fish.
It's cheating IMO. This could end up costing me quite a bit.
Then the next week similar situation. I stacked a guy, and I was gone for 2 minutes, and I came back and he had about 4K. I told him that 2500 was the max buy in and he lost his mind and was getting really offended. This guy apparently won a pot when I was gone, but the first guy was clearly trying to angle. Max buy in was 2500.
Maybe because it was at the WSOP because it was such a toxic environment at the cash games there, or is it normal for people to get pissed when you ask them what they bought in for? I feel like i don't want to ask again after being verbally accosted a few days ago. It's not worth it if it's going to upset people that much. I think most times I called people out on that they didn't want to speak to me after that now that I think about it. But to me it really feels like they are cheating if they know better, angle shooting.
Or, you could win quite a bit.
Depends on the room, depends on which supervisor is handling the situation, depends on who the player is.
Generally, this is going to be a warning. Then a stern warning. Eventually, the player will be removed from the table or from the room for a set amount of time (the rest of the night, or 24 hours, one or the other.) If it's a player who continually does this after repeated warnings, he could be banned altogether.
