2025 World Series of Poker May 27th - July 16th
The 85 bluff on the river was insane, he obviously put them on very close to what they had. Nobody is doing stuff like that, that's why he's built different. He's an old school, feel player. Great player, running great = fantastic entertainment for us. So much better than the silent tanking that we would usually have. And his style definitely affected the other players to act quickly and even gamble a little more than they normally would. Best fun I've had watching poker in can't remember how long, and certainly the best ME FT in recent memory.
This wasn't a punt at all. Hallaert shove range is going to include hands she dominates like weaker Ax and KQ, and maybe not any AJ/TT+. Most likely she was going for the check-jam, except her plan was spoiled by him shoving. Seems like a very reasonable hand to include in a check/shove range, as it can easily over-realize equity.She is good enough to know you can't avoiding ta
Agreed, thought it was quite standard. I think a fold would have been suboptimal.
This wasn't a punt at all. Hallaert shove range is going to include hands she dominates like weaker Ax and KQ, and maybe not any AJ/TT+. Most likely she was going for the check-jam, except her plan was spoiled by him shoving. Seems like a very reasonable hand to include in a check/shove range, as it can easily over-realize equity.She is good enough to know you can't avoiding ta
Agree, she was hoping to see him put 8M out there which would be mostly hands he’s folding but with some premiums
She was a slight dog here but a favorite over entirety of hands he jams. And no tiny stack out there so all ok
Grinder might be able to make good on that win it in a hour given he has about 75% of the chips.
It will be pretty exciting to see a big name pro win the main in the post Moneymaker era. Definitely other big names have made it to the FT (Ivey, Mizrachi twice now, JC Tran, Allen Cunningham) but to see a legend like Grinder win the main would be awesome. 4 time PPC winner too is a huge accomplishment.
Anyone watch final table coverage long enough to notice whether it was a shuffler being used or hand shuffled, I noticed that some of the featured table footage on day 6 etc. had some hand shuffled tables, was this carried into the final?
Because I like Mike but there is much to be gained from cleaning up last couple years “image” of the main event and poker in general.
2.5bb with 24 left, winning AJ v AQ, runner runner flush, winning every flip, AK vs KK for tourney life and mega chip lead pot, A on the river obv. Just lol @ tournament poker and the luck some people have in this game. I'd be over the moon if I could have this kind of luck in a single $109 once.
Tomorrow will be the 10th day of the main event. The amount of rungood that’s required to survive a 10 day tournament massively exceeds the amount of skill required. It’s an obviously amazing accomplishment but you’ll never convince me, even with a win, that he’s a better tourney player than say, deeb
OK, so we devalue his presumed win tomorrow because the tournament is too long, and we (based on others itt) devalue his PPC wins because the fields were too small, do I got that right?
So, $2500 700 runners Eight Game Mix Ultra Mega Turbo (10 minute levels) 4GOATROLLZ? (Not a terrible idea so long as you have tables with auto shufflers and timers)
There’s a Mike Caro article where he states the perfect/most skill required tournament should last no more than 4.5 hours, but iirc he was referring to small card room dailies.
There's a Mike Caro article where he states the perfect/most skill required tournament should last no more than 4.5 hours, but iirc he was referring to small card room dailies.
How does this make any sense? Better structure will always equal more skill required. The chance that skill based decisions trump luck in a 4.5 hour tourney is minuscule.
4.5 hour tourney seems about perfect in terms of being mostly about luck, so bad players win often enough to keep playing, while still allowing just enough skill to not be a complete crap shoot.
If grinder doesn’t win he will have undone his entire career, nothing left but a carp choked out by a hand sanitizer bottle on someone’s dock in the ICW.
Allow me to retract this, because after reading the hand histories there is zero chance he’ll lose, and he absolutely would’ve wrapped it up in an hour max had they played it out. He did Hallaert like Jordan did Drexler.
The Grinder running over these players probably continues because of the pay jumps and lifetime earnings, especially of Braxton Dunaway currently in 3rd out of 4 not wanting to come in 4th and lose out on a $1,000,000 more, as well as, John Wasnock safely currently in 2nd place not wanting to come in 3rd or 4th and lose out on $2,000,000 - $3,000,000 more. Plus, John Wasnock is thinking anything is possible should he get heads up, even if way behind at start of heads up.
Was wondering this too. As played I don't think you're ever getting it in great. A9- and Tx probably not jamming there.
You're either dominated or flipping. At best maybe against KQ.
Open shoving you might fold out all flips and AJ, so if called you're up against it.
I guess the rationale is it's ok as played if you're OK flipping to double your stack.
One thing is certain; had she simply folded everything but AA & KK—and shoved with those—she’d still be in and 3rd in chips!
How does this make any sense? Better structure will always equal more skill required. The chance that skill based decisions trump luck in a 4.5 hour tourney is minuscule.
4.5 hour tourney seems about perfect in terms of being mostly about luck, so bad players win often enough to keep playing, while still allowing just enough skill to not be a complete crap shoot.
Ive never read the article, I’ll try to find it.
Yeah, he should take it. Slight chance of 2nd. 3rd and 4th are waiting for the other to bust out and 2nd has way more than 3rd and 4th, so can't play much.
Spectacular, the PPC and ME in same year and his 4th PPC.
Not sure anyone has had this kind of lead 4-handed in the ME before.
Can’t wait for WSOP 2025—schedule looks stacked! Always love seeing how it evolves each year. Hoping the event merch this time gets a packaging upgrade too—maybe something like
for bracelets or player kits would be a cool touch. Good luck to everyone playing this summer!
Anyone watch final table coverage long enough to notice whether it was a shuffler being used or hand shuffled, I noticed that some of the featured table footage on day 6 etc. had some hand shuffled tables, was this carried into the final?
Because I like Mike but there is much to be gained from cleaning up last couple years “image” of the main event and poker in general.
They use shuffles at final table.
Yeah, he should take it. Slight chance of 2nd. 3rd and 4th are waiting for the other to bust out and 2nd has way more than 3rd and 4th, so can't play much.
Spectacular, the PPC and ME in same year and his 4th PPC.
Not sure anyone has had this kind of lead 4-handed in the ME before.
Not sure if it was to this degree but Raymer, Gold, Duhamel, McKeehen, Blumstein, Aldemir all had pretty big chip leads in the latter part of their final tables
Marget's bustout hand was fine. I wouldn't mind an open shove for 20xBB though.
Dunaway, with 2nd place, plays amateur style sometimes. For example, he made a 4x 4-bet with KK.
Nick Wright was kind of cringe. Barely have heard of him and he’s telling the poker world how it needs to conduct itself.
Top 4 payouts: 10M, 6M, 4M, 3M
Top 4 payouts if same % applied as last year’s Paradise Main Evemt:
8.1M, 6.2M, 4.9M, 3.8M
I was pleasantly surprised to find the main event final table day 1 streamed for free on YouTube, no pay subscription to PokerGo required. Does anyone know if it's the same setup to Day 2, or are they finally going behind a paywall somewhere?
Hell2Heaven- The thought crossed my mind too, just based on card distribution, but this is the WSOP main event, not the Hustler Casino. They’d be crazy to pre-set decks at the world’s biggest stage.
However… if the stream can be compromised by hackers, surely a little shuffle machine would be a walk in the park.
Yesterday almost seemed like a glitch in the matrix.
Biggest sun run I've ever seen
