Is The Epstein Pivot That Big A Deal
Is The Epstein Pivot That Big A Deal
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Is The Epstein Pivot That Big A Deal

How much of the original allegations are actually now denied? Is it not possible that the only thing that has changed is

09 July 2025 at 03:30 PM
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lolol, new "psyop" just dropped


by lozen m

I am not sure I saw Don Junior posted on IG nothing to see and every post is Your lying like your father and I am done . The dems are smart to push this as they know that Trump will not cave and even if he does Bill Clinton is old and not needed for the future

Eh, there's still a huge swath of Trumpers who trust what he says, but yeah, Trump did miscalculate by foaming them at the mouth over it and then rug pulled them, so there is a surprising number that are turning against him.


by 72off m

lolol, new "psyop" just dropped

It really is a psyop. Epstein was connected to all the biggest arms dealers in the world, and WSJ is writing stories about birthday letters.


My take would be "Epstein was connected to all the biggest arms dealers in the world"...

which allowed him to get away with a bunch of **** that he and others should be investigated.


not sure how else anyone pro maga or anyone can spin it but het complete 180 trump has taken definitely means something. either complicit or is being held over. maybe both

just no way to spin it positively for him imo


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'Political satire' is on long list of things that this admission has killed.


Ok so let's say there was no pedo ring and he was just drug lord or arm dealer.
How does that fit with ''Trump good friend of mine''?
Sounds to me plague or ebola pick your way.


by biggerboat m

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Difficult times for the onion, they were so good 10 years ago.
Jokes on them.


by the pleasure m

not sure how else anyone pro maga or anyone can spin it but het complete 180 trump has taken definitely means something. either complicit or is being held over. maybe both

just no way to spin it positively for him imo

Or there is no Epstein list and no John’s (other than Epstein himself).

You realize you are taking it as fact that something exists that incriminates Trump because proven liars like Trump, musk and bondi said it did, and are now backtracking.

It is just as likely they were initially lying. Is there one person you would call honest that has actually vouched the list exists?



by Dunyain m

Or there is no Epstein list and no John’s (other than Epstein himself).

You realize you are taking it as fact that something exists that incriminates Trump because proven liars like Trump, musk and bondi said it did, and are now backtracking.

It is just as likely they were initially lying. Is there one person you would call honest that has actually vouched the list exists?

You can't actually believe all this can you?


by campfirewest m

You can't actually believe all this can you?

Where are the girls? The state prosecutor found something like 40 girls that had been abused by Epstein and Maxwell. And 0 anyone else.

Not one girl willing to come out to say she was payed to **** Clinton on Epstein island for a 7-8 figure payday?

That isn’t statistically or logically possible if it was a massive prostitution for blackmail operation.

I mean, Epstein worked with shady characters and allegedly stole large sums of money from some of them and/or flipped on them. And some form of blackmail could have been involved in his relationships with people like Maxwell and Wexner.

And for sure he worked with intelligence when they needed a man of his talents for gun running or whatever.

But the idea he was running some giant pedophile blackmail scheme in the US for Mossad, and there is a missing list of this is nonsensical.


by Dunyain m

Or there is no Epstein list and no John’s (other than Epstein himself).

You realize you are taking it as fact that something exists that incriminates Trump because proven liars like Trump, musk and bondi said it did, and are now backtracking.

It is just as likely they were initially lying. Is there one person you would call honest that has actually vouched the list exists?

Then we should believe trump because he never lies.


by Dunyain m

Where are the girls? The state prosecutor found something like 40 girls that had been abused by Epstein and Maxwell. And 0 anyone else. Not one girl willing to come out to say she was payed to **** Clinton on Epstein island for a 7-8 figure payday?That isn’t statistically or logically possible if it was a massive prostitution for blackmail operation. I mean, Epstein worked

1. Ghislane Maxwell is in prison for sex trafficking.

2. Epstein was convicted of sex trafficking of minors in 2019.

3. Grand Jury testimony from a 2006 Florida trial detailed systemic sex trafficking.

What would motivate someone to lie about this?


by amplify m

1. Ghislane Maxwell is in prison for sex trafficking.

2. Epstein was convicted of sex trafficking of minors in 2019.

3. Grand Jury testimony from a 2006 Florida trial detailed systemic sex trafficking.

What would motivate someone to lie about this?

He just loves Donold and his pedo club. He loves em more than his own family.


by Land O Lakes m

Eh, there's still a huge swath of Trumpers who trust what he says, but yeah, Trump did miscalculate by foaming them at the mouth over it and then rug pulled them, so there is a surprising number that are turning against him.

They love their conspiracy theories and Trump has just been fueling the fire.


by Dunyain m

It really is a psyop. Epstein was connected to all the biggest arms dealers in the world, and WSJ is writing stories about birthday letters.

The media is in a frenzy trying to dig up stuff on Trump. They will definitely find evidence that Trump also liked his women young. I doubt Trump was connected to any child trafficking. I think Trump had a lot of fun with his friend Epstein until he realized that Epstein was over the top and could easily be pulled down by him. At this point Trump attempted to distance himself. There will be a ton of stories and photos of Trump with younger girls coming out. It's very possible he dipped his toes where he shouldn't have.


by mongidig m

The media is in a frenzy trying to dig up stuff on Trump. They will definitely find evidence that Trump also liked his women young. I doubt Trump was connected to any child trafficking. I think Trump had a lot of fun with his friend Epstein until he realized that Epstein was over the top and could easily be pulled down by him. At this point Trump attempted to distance himself.

Translation: "How would my beloved orange god, who is a convicted rapist, be a pedophile? Doesn't make sense at all, right?"


by BobTheSlob m

Translation: "How would my beloved orange god, who is a convicted rapist, be a pedophile? Doesn't make sense at all, right?"

I don't think he is a "pedophile". He just just likes them very young like 14+ probably. Biden seemed to like them young as well. A lot of these rich old dudes get into some weird stuff.


by mongidig m

I don't think he is a "pedophile". He just just likes them very young like 14+ probably. Biden seemed to like them young as well. A lot of these rich old dudes get into some weird stuff.

https://www.tiktok.com/@gianmarcosoresi...


what about the prince andrew story, and that girl that killed herself (conveniently) recently.
There have been many testimonies in the past that led to these convictions.
Everyone lied back then?
Why the 180 now?

ps: haven't followed the story much, but it's not hard to imagine the elites getting away with anything and be totally unhinged behind the scenes.


by amplify m

1. Ghislane Maxwell is in prison for sex trafficking.

2. Epstein was convicted of sex trafficking of minors in 2019.

3. Grand Jury testimony from a 2006 Florida trial detailed systemic sex trafficking.

What would motivate someone to lie about this?

You understand that "sex trafficking" in this context means that Maxwell recruited and paid some 14 year old girl to fly to Epstein Island and be abused by him and her, right? That is what he was on trial for and what she is in jail for. The prosecutor found something like 40 girls with stories like this.

What in the world does "sex trafficking" mean to you?


by Dunyain m
by amplify m

1. Ghislane Maxwell is in prison for sex trafficking.2. Epstein was convicted of sex trafficking of minors in 2019.3. Grand Jury testimony from a 2006 Florida trial detailed systemic sex trafficking.What would motivate someone to lie about this?

How do you come up with this interpretation?
Are you straight out dismissing the stories about actually ''lending'' girls to other people?


by mongidig m

I don't think he is a "pedophile". He just just likes them very young like 14+ probably. Biden seemed to like them young as well. A lot of these rich old dudes get into some weird stuff.

I can remember tons of conservatives, including up to very recent years, saying that lewinsky was basically a child lol

Now we're at I mean it's only like 14ish what's the big deal they're practically adults 😀

Have these guys forgotten about Prince Andrew already in their attempts to contain it to just epstein/maxwell? The odds there aren't any others seem pretty slim.

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