View: Garrett Adelstein is the best LIVE NL Cash player in the world
View: Garrett Adelstein is the best LIVE NL Cash player in the world
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View: Garrett Adelstein is the best LIVE NL Cash player in the world

This guy plays against the top pros in LA and crushes all of their souls. He NEVER loses a pot.

Garrett Adelstein uses napkin blow reverse tell (at 5:32) to get paid off in huge pot

Garrett Adelstein elite table talk facing big river decision with 4th pair

Garrett Adelstein teaches online pros how to talk to fish during a live poker hand

The way that Garrett cultivates his image at the table causes him to get paid off in spots where no one else in the world would, he knows when and WHO he can apply pressure to and also knows when not to, and his use of elite table talk while in and out of the hand is some thing that cannot be learned by reading a book or studying in the lab, only by years of practice, and having a natural charisma that less than 5% of people have.

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Edit/MH: "The hand."

06 January 2020 at 08:50 AM
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by smoothcriminal99 m

Gman used to frequent this site and be active in online community/training sites. I bet he probably has better things to do now. He has the amazing ability even in hu online days to do unconventional things which make him appear weaker then other players he actually crushes. I imagine his win rate vs weaker players is higher then β€œstronger” players win rate vs those weaker play

what an amaziong post.

tbf if gman did study GTO against the absolute 1% regs im sure he would be great or very good still but the issue is hes always loved deep stakes poker and had lot of LAG heart to him so the fact his style kills exploittive good to below average players and recs makes him a top tier player and certainly one of the best against whales, big money recs etc, splashes is fun to play with shince he is involved in a lot ofpots and just disects a lot of frequencys and hands.

im not sure if you take back and take robl, jungle etc agaisnt the same pop if they do as well as garrret and obv take others against pros and does garrett do as well with how muhc he isnt used to those gto heads.

would have been fun to see him play at macau back when mcau was macau thast for sure


^makes you wonder if he would've thrown a temper tantrum and try to intimidate a girl in a Macau game if he lost a flip to Jack high

Most would reload and say man this is a great game


by InterestedWrasse m

^makes you wonder if he would've thrown a temper tantrum and try to intimidate a girl in a Macau game if he lost a flip to Jack high

Most would reload and say man this is a great game

Most would be idiots then when she tried to payoff Gman to attempt to keep the cheating allegations hush hush.


by InterestedWrasse m

^makes you wonder if he would've thrown a temper tantrum and try to intimidate a girl in a Macau game if he lost a flip to Jack high

Most would reload and say man this is a great game

not sure what came of the search if she cheated or not, was very weird either way tho


I've changed my mind on the cheating situation to believe that Robbi had a device like a love-sense in her wa-wa. The guy in the control room had the vibration controller. I had no idea devices like that existed until I got addicted to cam-girl porn after Covid.


Many share this opinion, and for good reason β€” Garrett Adelstein is truly one of the strongest players in live NL cash games. He consistently demonstrates a high level of play, especially on streams, and knows how to use pressure and aggression effectively. But calling him the best in the world is subjective. There are other top players who also claim this title.


Infamous J4 hand makes zero sense and anyone who actually players poker even at a average level knows that.

If she'd stuck to the story that she thought she had J3 that'd of made a lot more sense and would of been believable especially since she just had the hand.

I can't blame the guy for thinking he got cheated on an incomprehensible call, and that's as someone who thinks garett is annoying snob in general and somewhat overrated as a poker player.

Now maybe she didn't cheat and thought she had J3 but was embarrassed to actually admit that. But the entire thing doesn't make much sense.


by WPNdonk m

Infamous J4 hand makes zero sense and anyone who actually players poker even at a average level knows that. If she'd stuck to the story that she thought she had J3 that'd of made a lot more sense and would of been believable especially since she just had the hand. I can't blame the guy for thinking he got cheated on an incomprehensible call, and that's as someone who thinks gar

He 100 percent got cheated,nothing else makes sense at all.

Robbi hadnt played any significant stakes cash before this stream,just some small 300-400 buyin tournies and 1/3 or 2/5 cash.

And then we are supposed to believe she suddenly is gonna call off over 100K with J high no draw no nothing against the stream superstar and biggest shark? That just does not happen in a legit game.


by Petrucci m

The only thing I'd disagree with is it being 100%. I'm generally regarded as a decent poker player at minimum and one time I made a major misread of my hand. Somehow I thought 54 of clubs but it was actually diamonds. Thought I turned a flush and called a river shove. Ofc no one thought I cheated because I lost on the river calling with 5 high but just saying weird things can happen. I'd agree most likely he was cheated. (And at a minimum she is lying)


by WPNdonk m

The only thing I'd disagree with is it being 100%. I'm generally regarded as a decent poker player at minimum and one time I made a major misread of my hand. Somehow I thought 54 of clubs but it was actually diamonds. Thought I turned a flush and called a river shove. Ofc no one thought I cheated because I lost on the river calling with 5 high but just saying weird things can h

Sure we are on the same page,100 percent was a little too much cause as you say blackouts or extremely weird things can happen on paper.

Gman have an almost absurd amount of experience in the live NL cash world. That be casino games,huge private games,streamed games++ He have seen it all,and he have talked about in podcasts before about being cheated multiple times.

Its fascinating in the Robbi hand,cause you can see it in his face and his eyes that he knew right away when cards are tabled:this is not legit.


If she was cheating she chose the absolute nut-low spot to do so and potentially blow your cover


by Petrucci m

He 100 percent got cheated,nothing else makes sense at all.Robbi hadnt played any significant stakes cash before this stream,just some small 300-400 buyin tournies and 1/3 or 2/5 cash.And then we are supposed to believe she suddenly is gonna call off over 100K with J high no draw no nothing against the stream superstar and biggest shark? That just does not happen in a legit gam

what makes sense is a donk spazzed out because she thought garret was bullying her. I swear some people on here have never played live poker. You occasionally see absolutely outrageous ****.
People who cheat don't have just one suspicious hand, give money back when cornered and then go back to the table with whatever cheating device they have on them to risk getting arrested.
They tell Garret to **** himself and leave.


by borg23 m

what makes sense is a donk spazzed out because she thought garret was bullying her. I swear some people on here have never played live poker. You occasionally see absolutely outrageous ****.People who cheat don't have just one suspicious hand, give money back when cornered and then go back to the table with whatever cheating device they have on them to risk getting arrested.The

Come on Borg,i have thousands of live hours over the past 12 years most of it in different private games or homegames.

I agree that people can spazz out big in different ways,especially on tilt during graveyard hours. But not for 100x the stakes they usually play with J high no hand no draw on stream against the tables biggest shark.

That is just so extremely unlikely.


yeah borg you’re drunk, go sober up


by Xenoblade m

yeah borg you’re drunk, go sober up

I wish I was drunk!


Another thing to consider . Two of the alleged co- conspirators have not been seen since the alleged cheating event.
Rip was playing in the biggest live stream game in the country for thousands of dollars and now apparently doesnÂ’t play at all. That just doesnÂ’t make sense.
Brian took his $15,000 payoff and hasnÂ’t been seen since. Totally disappeared. He was the guy working in the booth.
Robbi played a while mainly on stake and crowd funding and now doesnÂ’t seem to play. Generally, people who play on these streams, play poker all the time. It seems strange that they pop up just for this one mega high stakes game that is totally out of their element, run an alleged attempted cheat , and then are never heard from again.


We can speculate all day long, probably very few people in the world know 100% for sure if she was cheating or just making one of the most epic punt attempts in the history of not just televised poker but poker in general

The reason it's so suspicious to so many players is bc for many of us who have played thousands upon thousands of hours of hands live and online at stakes 10-100x smaller we have never seen someone punt of their stack in this kind of way calling it off with J high no draw. I've seen players call it off with a 9 high gutter, A high for stacks, etc etc but just calling off $70k or whatever the bet was with J high that interacts with the board in no real way is insane and incredibly suspicious when it's actually the best hand ATM as well

But none the less none of us have any idea what exactly it was other than probably the most suspicious hand that's ever been caught on stream


by Robot9999 m

Another thing to consider . Two of the alleged co- conspirators have not been seen since the alleged cheating event. Rip was playing in the biggest live stream game in the country for thousands of dollars and now apparently doesnΓ‚’t play at all. That just doesnΓ‚’t make sense. Brian took his $15,000 payoff and hasnΓ‚’t been seen since. Totally disappeared. He wa

lmao
I almost forgot about the " smoking gun" this guy stealing chips from her. People really were acting like they cracked the case with that nonsense for a week or two.

There have been donks of donks who play on these streams a couple of times and are never heard from again.
Was Dylan Gang cheating also since he played with Garret then quit the streams? or was that ok bc Garret incinerated him?

Whether she cheated or not Rip should never play again. Either she cheated and he was on on it so why would he play- or didn't cheat, was treated like garbage and I wouldn't play again for that reason if I was him. Him not playing isn't telling us anything.

But yea one crazy hand, nothing else suspicious at all and she cheated. And even went right back to the same game after being accused of cheating with her cheating device. Likely story.


by Petrucci m

Sure we are on the same page,100 percent was a little too much cause as you say blackouts or extremely weird things can happen on paper.Gman have an almost absurd amount of experience in the live NL cash world. That be casino games,huge private games,streamed games++ He have seen it all,and he have talked about in podcasts before about being cheated multiple times.Its fascinati

This was literally every garret fan boy after the hand took place. Applying mythical status to Garrett's ability to just know he's been cheated (in the dumbest possible spot you'd ever pick to cheat as you still lose a lot). Over time, as the promised evidence and proof never came to light, most of the pro-cheat camp realized it's incredibly more likely she just spazzed in that spot, rather then being the key cog in a sophisticated cheating scam on the most watched live stream. Ppl do weird **** all the time and of course her play wasnt rationale or ordinary. Garret and others poured a ton of resources into finding any evidence of cheating and returned nothing. There is a number of instances of garret acting emotional on stream and even his fan boys agree he's among the most entitled players you ever see. To be outplayed just melted his brain. Had he won one of thr run outs he wouldn't of even quit.

Considering she can apparently see his cards its really a great spot to take for all her chips as what a 2-1 fav ? Lol


by freedom 35 m

This was literally every garret fan boy after the hand took place. Applying mythical status to Garrett's ability to just know he's been cheated (in the dumbest possible spot you'd ever pick to cheat as you still lose a lot). Over time, as the promised evidence and proof never came to light, most of the pro-cheat camp realized it's incredibly more likely she just spazzed in that

No,people does not spazz out like that calling off 80k with J high no hand no draw in games 10x their normal stakes.

That claim is just flat out not true.


Lol okay your right. Great spot to pick as well when you know, you just lose a 3rd of the time and the cheating scam returns a huge loss. I guess given your insight into her bankroll for that game, she didnt have another bullet then? Just a waste of of the whole con?


by freedom 35 m

Lol okay your right. Great spot to pick as well when you know, you just lose a 3rd of the time and the cheating scam returns a huge loss. I guess given your insight into her bankroll for that game, she didnt have another bullet then? Just a waste of of the whole con?

Stick to the case:you claimed people spazzes out like that "all the time",wich i just corrected as false.


by Petrucci m

Stick to the case:you claimed people spazzes out like that "all the time",wich i just corrected as false.

Okay, how about 'some of the time'. I don't know what to tell you if you have never witnessed that in live poker.


by freedom 35 m

Okay, how about 'some of the time'. I don't know what to tell you if you have never witnessed that in live poker.

No they don't...people pretty much never spazz out by calling it off for a big stack at any stakes with J high no draw

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