Moderation Questions
Moderation Questions
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Moderation Questions

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by checkraisdraw m

Citation needed. Also strictly speaking that’s not a right it’s a power.

As for right to return, there has probably never been a case where totally infringing on that right would pass strict scrutiny tests. But absolutely you can be stopped at the border for a reasonable period to ascertain whether you have that right at all. So in that sense it’s not absolute.

Rights are exactly limits to power. Nothing more nothing less. having a right for x means the state does NOT have the power to mess with your x. Saying the state doesnt have the power do to Y means exactly that it is your right not to have Y done upon you.

Not sure which link you are asking for. About a federal wealth tax (ofc unapportioned, linked to your personal actual wealth) being unconstitutional?


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by Luciom m

Rights are exactly limits to power. Nothing more nothing less. having a right for x means the state does NOT have the power to mess with your x. Saying the state doesnt have the power do to Y means exactly that it is your right not to have Y done upon you.

Nah that’s wrong. For instance, the state having the power to coin money isn’t mutually exclusive to citizens having the right to coin money. But a state could also make it so they have the power to coin money but citizens don’t have the right to coin money.

You’re making an inductive error.


by checkraisdraw m

Nah that’s wrong. For instance, the state having the power to coin money isn’t mutually exclusive to citizens having the right to coin money. But a state could also make it so they have the power to coin money but citizens don’t have the right to coin money.

You’re making an inductive error.

The state coinage power is in being allowed to ask for that specific currency, and only for it (if the state so decides), for taxes (that's a leftist take btw, Graeber, but it's the objectively correct one). A private citizen doing his own stuff with a crypto or physical private coin is irrelevant for that.

The state has the legal power to force you violently to use the currency they decide or they can come with armed people to your place to take your stuff and you as well if you complain.

So no you have no right to your own legal tender.


From what I’ve seen, the next time CN makes a good faith post about politics and society in this subforum will be the first time.

It should be a rule: a moderator isn’t allowed to hand out more bans than they have good faith posts in that forum.



free karl the og !!


Lol Craig, do you think you post about politics?


RIP to Luciom, the libertarian Mussolini


Kind of weird of him to claim that nazism was legal though considering how in love with laws he seemed to be



by Crossnerd m

Lol Craig, do you think you post about politics?

Society


by coordi m

Kind of weird of him to claim that nazism was legal though considering how in love with laws he seemed to be

He also said if it was legal, it SHOULD happen which is wild because he never extended that courtesy to leftism


by coordi m

Kind of weird of him to claim that nazism was legal though considering how in love with laws he seemed to be

I’d say he shoulda went to Turkey but he doesn’t have any Muslim friends


by StoppedRainingMen m

I’d say he shoulda went to Turkey but he doesn’t have any Muslim friends

I would like to point out that you said it was a waste of time for me to reply to him but it was a reply to me that got him banned lol

Not that I wanted him to get banned but I do find it funny.


Not all heroes wear capes

I apologize for besmirching your efforts

Edit: the irony is I truly didn’t post that thread to get him banned. I’ve said multiple times we’ve gone too far and are just stuck with it now, which is why I just chose to mock him rather than engage him. I just posted that thread cuz rococo made that post which I thought was an interesting case study I was curious about people’s opinions on. I don’t think I even voted in the poll

Which he used as a reason to get tilted and claim he has every legal right to be a Nazi and hate women and every right to espouse both things anywhere he wants

Shrug


by coordi m

Kind of weird of him to claim that nazism was legal though considering how in love with laws he seemed to be

Free Lucium!!!

That being said, where did Lucium argue nazism was legal?


If you can’t be bothered to try on your own I can’t be bothered to do your work for you

This isn’t a welfare state


Luciom is banned???




Do we get to know for how long?


this probably puts me out of a jerb though


Don't tease me bro


by Trolly McTrollson m

Forget lawyering, watching these guys try to tie their shoelaces unassisted would probably also be entertaining.

I prefer Velcro to laces.


by Rococo m

uke was more interested in discussing transgender issues than anyone else in this forum, and he explicitly agreed that there should be rules related to higher-level athletics. I said several times that if Joel Embiid came out as transgender and wanted to play in the WNBA after taking hormones for a prescribed period (an admittedly absurd hypothetical), that should not be allow

They were all in favor of "gender affirming care". Excuse me "life saving gender affirming care". All of it and the "science" behind it being total bullshit.

This "care" consists of giving minors hormones and operations. Minors being sterilized and set up to be life long patients. This also includes going down this path without parental knowledge, inclusion, or involvement.

To say trans in women's sports is idiotic would be an understatement. To say "gender affirming care" for minors is morally repugnant is obvious to anyone with a functioning moral compass. This obviously flew over coordi, uke, and others head after prolonged discussion. Meanwhile a reversal from many European nations in response to actual research (vs ideology) was/is happening

To summarize the discussion or differences to varying rules in women's sports would be totally missing what really happened


by hole in wan m

They were all in favor of "gender affirming care". Excuse me "life saving gender affirming care". All of it and the "science" behind it being total bullshit. This "care" consists of giving minors hormones and operations. Minors being sterilized and set up to be life long patients. This also includes going down this path without parental knowledge, inclusion, or involvement. To

do you think that gender affirming care constitutes the entirety of trans healthcare? or that children are the only ones that receive that healthcare? or that there are not other models of treatment?

do you have an explanation for the consistent, cross-cultural observation of quasi-trans people? or is it all just sexual deviance to you?


Good lord. Gender affirming care is not "giving minors hormones and operations" and it isn't sterilizing them and it isn't setting them up to be lifelong patients. It also isn't without parental knowledge, inclusion, or involvement.

How ******* ignorant can one person be?


by Gorgonian m

Good lord. Gender affirming care is not "giving minors hormones and operations" and it isn't sterilizing them and it isn't setting them up to be lifelong patients. It also isn't without parental knowledge, inclusion, or involvement.

How ******* ignorant can one person be?

The sad thing is that he’s not even the most hyperbolic conservative on the subject that I have read. That’s how far gone we’ve become on this subject.

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