Moderation Questions
Moderation Questions
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Moderation Questions

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by geezerchess m

But I think he extended that definition to include what's morally right for society-at-large.

No. It was whatever he felt was good for his "blood" and that it was a zero-sum game. He had/has a real problem understanding a rising tide lifts all boats.


by Crossnerd m

You can start doing that when women start randomly stabbing men in the face without provocation while at the ****ing park

Hey now, maybe she didn't smile at him.


by Crossnerd m

You can start doing that when women start randomly stabbing men in the face without provocation while at the ****ing park

Why would I be allowed to do that even then?

Broad-brushing folks based on gender, ethnicity or nationality is always wrong and stupid.


by Didace m

Hey now, maybe she didn't smile at him.

And still, if a woman were to tell men she was afraid to go hiking alone because a man might stab her in the face for no reason, the men would laugh her out of the room as if that isn’t a legitimate fear

That’s what really drives it home


by Crossnerd m

And still, if a woman were to tell men she was afraid to go hiking alone because a man might stab her in the face for no reason, the men would laugh her out of the room as if that isn’t a legitimate fear

That’s what really drives it home

Just carry bear spray and keep walking

so if Lucion had said I think people have the right to believe that trans gendering is a mental health issue would that be a perma ban offense even though he has not indicated he believes it but folks should have the right to believe it ?


Let's not forget that every Adolph Hitler has an Eva Braun.



by Crossnerd m

And still, if a woman were to tell men she was afraid to go hiking alone because a man might stab her in the face for no reason, the men would laugh her out of the room as if that isn’t a legitimate fear

That’s what really drives it home

More broad-brushing. Lots of men would say that your fear is legitimate. And some women would say that your fear is not legitimate. They might say that the probability of you being stabbed in the face is about one-in-a-million and you shouldn't live in fear. Or they might totally agree with you.

The point is, broad-brushing the intelligence or morality of folks based on race, gender or ethnicity is stoopid.


Shut up, Chuck. You act like I haven’t been that woman getting laughed out of the room more times than I can count. Women’s fears are typically minimized and dismissed as nonsense. It’s not enough that we have to be fearful, we also won’t be taken seriously if we are.


And I’m not doing the broad brush bullshit today either.

It’s the same trope as “snakes are dangerous” and you coming along to say “nuh uh, not ALL snakes, how dare you judge all snakes!” At least snakes bear identifiable markings. Men do not.

When you don’t know which guns are loaded, you treat all guns as potentially deadly. That’s how that **** works, and I’ll not be spending any time debating it today.


by Crossnerd m

And still, if a woman were to tell men she was afraid to go hiking alone because a man might stab her in the face for no reason, the men would laugh her out of the room as if that isn’t a legitimate fear

That’s what really drives it home

i'm pretty active outdoors - i've heard a lot of the "i don't hike alone anymore" stories and not once have i heard men discard it

i've been told that wild did a pretty good job handling it - the uncertainty and sketchiness and awkward situation of trying to decide if you're going to be a total karen based on a hunch or if horrible things are going to happen to you because you were worried about social norms

some of the best advice i've ever heard is that if you ever get that feeling that you need to exit now regardless of how rude/awkward it's going to seem then you're feeling those thoughts for good reason so act on them

good friend of mine quit halfway through soloing the app trail because she kept on finding herself in sketchy situations with solo male hikers - wants to finish the trail someday - but with a male companion

likewise i know a lot of females who will take a gun with them camping if there are no males in the group and even if present it's still 50/50 they carry


by geezerchess m

More broad-brushing. Lots of men would say that your fear is legitimate. And some women would say that your fear is not legitimate. They might say that the probability of you being stabbed in the face is about one-in-a-million and you shouldn't live in fear. Or they might totally agree with you.

If the bolded is not stoopid, can I create a "Race and IQ" thread?*

*I ofc don't really want to start such a thread, but would still like an answer from CN.


by Crossnerd m

And I’m not doing the broad brush bullshit today either. It’s the same trope as “snakes are dangerous” and you coming along to say “nuh uh, not ALL snakes, how dare you judge all snakes!” At least snakes bear identifiable markings. Men do not.When you don’t know which guns are loaded, you treat all guns as potentially deadly. That̵

i was reading it a broad like how they called women in the pre war era until it finally clicked


by Crossnerd m

Shut up, Chuck. You act like I haven’t been that woman getting laughed out of the room more times than I can count. Women’s fears are typically minimized and dismissed as nonsense. It’s not enough that we have to be fearful, we also won’t be taken seriously if we are.

Absolutely women's fears are often minimized by men. But that doesn't justify calling all men evil or whatever you've said.


by rickroll m

i'm pretty active outdoors - i've heard a lot of the "i don't hike alone anymore" stories and not once have i heard men discard iti've been told that wild did a pretty good job handling it - the uncertainty and sketchiness and awkward situation of trying to decide if you're going to be a total karen based on a hunch or if horrible things are going to happen to you because you w

I genuinely do not give a single **** about your opinion on this regarding whether men take it seriously. I know more than you.


by Crossnerd m

And I’m not doing the broad brush bullshit today either. It’s the same trope as β€œsnakes are dangerous” and you coming along to say β€œnuh uh, not ALL snakes, how dare you judge all snakes!” At least snakes bear identifiable markings. Men do not.When you don’t know which guns are loaded, you treat all guns as potentially deadly. That’s how that **** works, and I’ll not be spendin

Fair enough.

I'm very sorry about what happened today in the woods.


by jalfrezi m

This is America - isn't the usual recommendation to take a gun? Doesn't sound too relaxing though.

I got kicked out of a 14er hiking group for pointing out that open carrying on mountains was psychotic because people were about 500x more likely to be shot than attacked by a mountain lion

things are weird here


by coordi m

I got kicked out of a 14er hiking group for pointing out that open carrying on mountains was psychotic because people were about 500x more likely to be shot than attacked by a mountain lion

things are weird here

There have actually been recent sightings of mountain lions on the mountain. Notably, this did not stop women from hiking there.

Leave it to some dude to ruin ****


by Crossnerd m

I genuinely do not give a single **** about your opinion on this regarding whether men take it seriously. I know more than you.

you misunderstand

i was not refuting your experience

i was simply saying that i think that had more to do with their ignorance of the outdoors than ignorance of women because my circle is very outdoorsy and that's a common thing that is pretty widely accepted as the norm

this is also not a defense of men in general - i'm sure a lot of those same men would say the same regardless of the setting - maybe it's a vegas thing?

the part i hate the most about my line of work is i'm constantly surrounded by utter scumbags in casinos all day and iirc you live in vegas (or used to?) so it wouldn't surprise me at all if the people i see in the sportsbook or card room all acted that way and it wouldn't be done out of ignorance of the outdoors


When you responded with “not once have I heard men discard it” you dismissed my lived experiences. This is the standard issue with trying to talk to you guys about this stuff- you center yourselves, you don’t listen to us, you don’t believe us. You just want to argue and virtue signal that you’re one of the good ones.

The actual good ones don’t do that. Just fyi.


by coordi m

I got kicked out of a 14er hiking group for pointing out that open carrying on mountains was psychotic because people were about 500x more likely to be shot than attacked by a mountain lion

things are weird here

anyone who grew up in rural new england is told at an early age to always wear orange during deer season because it's so common for some novice, anxious, or inebriated hunter to just shoot at some movement in the distance

the beginning and end of deer season is broadcast to everyone as a public service announcement and every household has orange vests and hats they put on before going out during deer season

hunters accidentally shoot about a thousand people each year in america - it's rarely fatal

there's also a number of outdoors youtubers who have videos of bullets being fired in their vicinity

having said all of that, i strongly looked into bringing a firearm with me on my recent cross country adventure but opted out of it because of the bureaucratic nightmare of legally possessing a firearm in different states

reason being that there's been a number of times i've been solo camping in very remote areas and you get a truck pull up around 3 am, park with the engine running for 15 minutes and then drive away - i think most of the time it's just teens having car sex or people doing drugs but it's always pretty jarring and figured carrying would bring a little bit of peace of mind

also last time i went camping in colorado at a national forest camp site the only other campers there were cooking meth


by Rococo m

As King Spew said, I'm sure it was a lifetime achievement award and not a response to a specific post.

So called "lifetime achievement bans" are just ways for moderators to do whatever they want.

If someone can't point to a specific post that is violating rules or common decency then a person shouldn't be banned.

If in this case the post in question was what Rickroll quoted where Luciom is arguing for free speech then lol moderators.


by Luckbox Inc m

So called "lifetime achievement bans" are just ways for moderators to do whatever they want.

If someone can't point to a specific post that is violating rules or common decency then a person shouldn't be banned.

Once he started doing his "we" schtick when referring to American Republicans his days were numbered because his violent and divisive rhetoric was somewhat hand waved as our local Italian fascista. But even then the rising rhetoric was getting to be too much.

The reality is he should have been permabanned a long time ago and he got more leash than probably any single poster on 2p2 ever


Relax, Suckbox

‘First they came for the Nazis who post 200 times a day and I said nothing’ is a weird stance to take


by coordi m

Once he started doing his "we" schtick when referring to American Republicans his days were numbered because his violent and divisive rhetoric was somewhat hand waved as our local Italian fascista. But even then the rising rhetoric was getting to be too much.The reality is he should have been permabanned a long time ago and he got more leash than probably any single poster on

Still though what needed to happen was for him to argue that it is morally just for people to shoot socialists or something.

Instead you guys got him for nothing.

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