ACR is filled with endless bots

It’s been like this for a while, GG poker too. I’ve heard reports of them as well on ipoker and they seem to exist on Coin Poker as well as that recent catch here on 2p2 a couple weeks back I think on WPT Gold.

Can others confirm?

Where's the proof?

Are they in the PLO games also? 5 card and 4 card?

Does WSOP.com have bots?

Every single site in the world has bots, the question is how prevalent are they and how much do the bots, RTA, and collusion impact the overall player pool

I already put it to the test. The other day I had a completely free day with absolutely nothing to do, so whilst I was watching movies I periodically checked on my phone, maybe every 10-15 minutes, over the span of about 12 hours. There were several players sat at the tables for that entire time playing.

Now don't get me wrong, I know some people do play long sessions.

But I swear down these accounts never took a single break.

You can also tell by their actions. Some bots click almost instantly, you can tell they're not once even thinking about their actions, they're just programmed to do so.

My opinion after playing a small sample of both plo and nlh for fun this summer, is that PLO is basically only bots and NLH is just terrible players that probably aren't bots. Small stakes.

If the player pool in NLH are bots then i'd love to play them forever. In PLO I'm quite certain i'm not beating the games at the same stakes even though I'm sure i'm a much better plo player than NLH player. With the amount of variance in PLO it's not worth anyone's time trying to find out. Most likely you're up against a combination of sharing hole cards + rta on every table in plo.

There are threads on this with evidence

I don't think we disagree on much, but if you look at say the NL100 6 max tables on ACR typically 3 of the players on every table will be on smarthand leaderboard for the stake with like 4-8bb/100 winrate.

If you play hands with them it's obvious they are not good at poker and not even trying to be very good at poker. They're not pursuing any semblance of gto strategy(that much is obvious just from stats) and they tank very naturally like humans when put to any kind of test. Just from the stats I can say noone would ever design a bot to play the way majority of these players do.

There's basically never any surprises. Many of these players are not even attempting to play a strong strategy from the blinds or a strong 3 bet strategy. I'm not even saying optimal, i'm just saying "strong". It's funny because i've been doing the same thing as an inactive player, I just overfold massively in the blinds except against certain player types, since I know i'm pretty clueless.

If a player is cutting corners like this in his strategy I assume it's a clear sign you're not dealing with a bot. The people in the NLH pool just strike me as grinders set in their ways that probably lose quite hard if they ever were to move on to tougher lineups. Therefore they mass table playing a simplified strategy and win like $1000-2000(with rakeback) per week at small stakes and never move up.

That said I've never played during EU morning hours when a whole new player pool arrives(4 or 5 eastern europeans on the table and only a couple tables running). Afaik I don't think any of the names i've seen playing those hours are on the smarthand leaderboards, which would again make me think we're not dealing with bots in these lineups either.

Also if you were trying to enter the mind of a bot operator, why would you ever run NLH bots? PLO is a weaker player pool and your edge with card sharing is way bigger. Botting NLH would be like a sidequest after you've conquered PLO. I assume botting in plo is like stealing candy from a baby.
Whereas optimal PLO botting strategy would be massive volume, flooding tables and collusion - NLH botting strategy would be playing the highest possible stakes with very strong RTA.