Question re: CB sizing

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Not really that great a flop for villain's range I think. You 3xed so a lot less low cards in their range and a lot of overcards.
Your particular hand I guess can play either way, did GTOW mix this?

Yeah, I would guess the smaller bet is in part because the low cards aren't really that good for villains defending range vs. a 3x open (and you have a big overpair advantage), but also that you have ways to make nutted hands with your gutshot and backdoor flush draw, so BB continuing isn't the worst thing for you. I would guess you'd bet big more often if you had, say, K6s no BDFD.

Yeah, I think not just more raises, but a wider continuing range overall. More bluff check-raises than against a smaller size, more weak check-raises, more weak continues (even from hands you beat now). If you bet big you have to continue against a check-raise because of all the ways you have to improve, but you've cut down their continuing range in a way where you rarely when at showdown if you don't improve.

So in discussing this with some folks on another forum, it seems GTOW's preference for the smaller size is a function of (1) stack depth and (2) the fact that villain has the nuts advantage here. Although to be fair, as Barracuda points out, GTOW doesn't open 3x here. That said, I don't think opponents at these stakes and this stack depth adjust their BB defense range all that much to a 3x BTN open.

My guess is that GTOW mostly c-bets small because the flop smashes Villain's range and really isn't great for our range. Villain will have more hands pairing the board, flush draws, gutters, straights, two pairs, and sets. We do have over pair advantages. This bet sizing also keeps the pot smaller in case Villain c/r's. We would likely call to see if we improve.

Our bet sizing looks a lot like we have an overpair. If I were GTOW I would do the 17% large bet (of about 400) when I have overpairs like 77-JJ mixed with some hands that have multi draws (kind of like the hand you have here). The large overbets at 3% would probably be monsters mixed with some flush draws (but I never overbet like this on the flop)

For me I would bet 240 on this flop (same sizing as my preflop bet). I prefer gutters and overcards to fold. But I don't really mind calls that much. It is likely if we get called I would check back the turn (unless we improve in a non 5 way) and call a river bet.

Just to be clear, the bet breakdown I described was with this specific hand. So GTOW does mix with 65cc here, but chooses the small bet 70% of the time.