Should hero stack off with a combo draw on this flop?
Should hero stack off with a combo draw on this flop?

Should hero stack off with a combo draw on this flop?

Lively home game, night is winding down and it's 4-handed, €1/€2 round of each, Texas and Omaha.

PREFLOP

Hero (€425) straddles the button to €5. SB (€600) calls, BB (€500) calls, cutoff folds. Hero looks down at KJJ9 and makes it €20, both blinds call.

FLOP (€60)

T83

SB (OMC) checks, BB (an experienced and loose-aggressive player) pots it to €60. Hero raises to €200. SB folds. BB raises to €420, which will put hero all-in. Hero calls.

RIVER (€860)

T832K

BB shows 5433 for bottom set, and takes the pot.

Main query on this hand is whether hero should call or get the money in on this flop. SPR is 7, and hero has K high flush draw, open-ender and overpair. I believe around 46.7% equity vs range is required to stack off here (at least, according to JNanzez) - is this hand sufficient?

Cheers

05 August 2025 at 11:36 AM
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In position we can call the 60 bet.
No real reason to raise without a pair blocker.
After you raised 200 of course no folding.


by Cardead m

In position we can call the 60 bet.
No real reason to raise without a pair blocker.
After you raised 200 of course no folding.

Yes I was thinking that calling is also okay. It just sucks to call the 60, see a blank turn, face a potsize bet and probably have to fold.


by Telemakus m

Yes I was thinking that calling is also okay. It just sucks to call the 60, see a blank turn, face a potsize bet and probably have to fold.

Why would you have to fold turn? Easy continue on blanks.


by OmahaDonk m

Why would you have to fold turn? Easy continue on blanks.

Am I getting the right price to call?


by Telemakus m

Am I getting the right price to call?

You have some implied odds as well .
Villain won't check fold when all of your outs arrive.
Probably some yes , but sure not all.

We raise this situations when we think we have some fold equity , or our draw is really big and to the nuts , or stacks are really shallow and anyway you're getting the right price with the spr.


by Telemakus m

Am I getting the right price to call?

Even against a set yes, plus he’ll shove or check call some of our straights, plus we can counterfeit if he has 2pair and sometimes go check check.

We are in position with a lot of equity, let’s use it.


Given villain description I think raise is fine. Since he is LAG we tend to punish by raising with strong semi-bluffs and deny equity to many hands we want to fold.


This is probably near the bottom of our range for getting it in on the flop and we probably shouldn't do it every time, but I'm okay with it.

by Telemakus m

I believe around 46.7% equity vs range is required to stack off here (at least, according to JNanzez)
Cheers

What do you mean by this?


lol being shown bottom set here. Good game

You shouldn’t be raising here either. Your draw isn’t nutted and you only have an OE


with the overpair you sometimes have the best hand vs a wrap, this makes getting it in more attractive


by Cardead m

You have some implied odds as well .
Villain won't check fold when all of your outs arrive.
Probably some yes , but sure not all.

We raise this situations when we think we have some fold equity , or our draw is really big and to the nuts , or stacks are really shallow and anyway you're getting the right price with the spr.

Sure thing, agreed.


by OmahaDonk m

Even against a set yes, plus he’ll shove or check call some of our straights, plus we can counterfeit if he has 2pair and sometimes go check check.

We are in position with a lot of equity, let’s use it.

Damn yes, you're right:


Okay interesting, thanks.


by wazz m

This is probably near the bottom of our range for getting it in on the flop and we probably shouldn't do it every time, but I'm okay with it.

What do you mean by this?

SPR and stacking off equity on the flop, as detailed in JNandez's Omaha book:



by Echemondo m

lol being shown bottom set here. Good game

You shouldn't be raising here either. Your draw isn't nutted and you only have an OE

Hero has K high flush draw, open-ender and overpair that will make the nuts if a king comes on the turn. I believe it's enough equity to get it in on the flop, but as others have indicated, it's the bottom of my range for doing so.


by Telemakus m

SPR and stacking off equity on the flop, as detailed in JNandez's Omaha book:

What you're quoting applies before the flop action. After BB flop bet, you calc from your hypothetical call. 60+60+60 is 180 and you have 345 behind. Need 345/(345+345+180) = 39.6% to stack off facing the flop bet. that doesn't mean you should, though.


by Munga30 m

What you're quoting applies before the flop action. After BB flop bet, you calc from your hypothetical call. 60+60+60 is 180 and you have 345 behind. Need 345/(345+345+180) = 39.6% to stack off facing the flop bet. that doesn't mean you should, though.

Sure, thanks for clarifying.

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