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I don't want to be THAT gut but seeing set over set on the flop and then one set turning quads makes me at least questio

29 July 2025 at 12:09 AM
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by QtangPendek m

Sir, I’m not an idiot, kindly don’t. Ad meritum - they choose at random, it happens in the rebuy period. There are lots and lots of examples like mine online

Your conviction that the game is rigged isn't doing you any favors there, frankly.

There are multiple threads in the Discussion of Poker Sites forum about rigged sites now, and what they all have in common-- including this thread-- is that a)they're people playing micro stakes and b)using a small sample size of bad beats as "proof" the game is rigged.

Which makes me think the actual common threads here are a)these players are not as good as they think they are and b)they don't understand short-term variance.


I’m a bad player and I fully understand short term variance. Online poker is not rigged, GG is. Thank you


I think the far likelier explanation is that some people donk around and gamble it up at micro stakes and get lucky sometimes.


by nath m

I think the far likelier explanation is that some people donk around and gamble it up at micro stakes and get lucky sometimes.

Sometimes - ok, allthetimes - rigged


Again, what's your sample size on "All the time"?


by nath m

Again, what's your sample size on "All the time"?

Shitload of hands sir


100? 1,000? 10,000? 100,000?


by nath m

100? 1,000? 10,000? 100,000?

I’ve played around 30k hands there last two months and I’ve seen enough quads for next two years. Like one of the redditors said - it’s a pay-to-win type of a service. Like slots. The more coins you put it the better the results (for a short while). Let’s agree to disagree tho


It’s basically this, but for real - https://youtube.com/shorts/2_1ba8oxFWI?s...


It just seems really, really unlikely to me that a site that runs 10k buyin tournaments and just bought the WSOP would risk their reputations by juicing action on micro-stakes buyin tournaments. (And I've been around long enough to have seen POTRIPPER unfold live; that's not the same thing, though.)

Memory is a funny thing. That's why tracking software helps so much. As does worrying about the things you can control, like your game.

Since you are posting in this forum and seem interested in getting better, unlike the people who post "poker is rigged" stuff in DPS and never once post in a strategy forum, I'll just say this:

I won't tell you you "should" play there; I have sites I prefer and sites I hardly touch anymore.

I mostly played on ACR for the first year after coming back, and for two years I had good results, then my results just started cratering there. Since then, I've learned more about what a big bot problem they have (to the point that one of their pros openly said on a live stream that he thinks management just doesn't care about it), and every time they change their structures and schedules, they do so for the worse-- eliminating small-mid buyin tourneys with small-medium fields, making all their structures faster, etc.

A lot of my downturn there was from running bad, but it doesn't matter; I don't find the games good, either in terms of having a lot of dead money or in terms of having a good mix of tournaments I like to play (almost everything is huge buyins or huge fields, and the huge fields have such fast structures that there's so much more variance than even a huge field normally would have).

And from a mental standpoint, I don't see much point in playing on a site where my results have been so bad for a while (downswing over almost 1500 tournaments) that I'm not even sure I can win. Even though I'm sure I can win if I run good, the structures and my results over the last two years mostly lead me to think it's a low-ROI crapshoot site, and the fact that I have much better and more consistent results on other sites leads me to focus on sites where I feel my ROI is highest.

So while I'm not convinced GG is rigged, I do think that if you think it is, that will affect your play, and it will lead you to think you can't win there, and that's not the mindset to take into poker. I also think the mental energy you spend considering whether it is rigged is mental energy that would be better put into improving your game. So if not playing there gets you to focus more on what you can control and less on worrying if you're being taken for a ride, then you should do that.


by nath m

It just seems really, really unlikely to me that a site that runs 10k buyin tournaments and just bought the WSOP would risk their reputations by juicing action on micro-stakes buyin tournaments. (And I've been around long enough to have seen POTRIPPER unfold live; that's not the same thing, though.)Memory is a funny thing. That's why tracking software helps so much. As does wor

Yep, that’s my point too. Since I’ll never have 100% certainty, I kept around for a while so I could see enough to convince myself it’s somehow enhanced to induce action, and then I decided to quit and get back on Stars, which I’ll have to do via vpn, risking my account getting suspended etc. but it’s still better than playing on the site which I happen to believe it’s rigged. As for the mechanism, whether it’s only bots or preferential treatment algo, deposit-based one, there’s some unregulated stuff going on there and I’ll bet my mother on it. Take care


Hmm, you're playing from somewhere that you can play GG but not Stars? I'm in America, so I thought most of the ROW places where GG was available would also have Stars available.


by nath m

Hmm, you're playing from somewhere that you can play GG but not Stars? I'm in America, so I thought most of the ROW places where GG was available would also have Stars available.

Poland. In 2015 there was a bill passed prohibiting all β€œonline casinos”. It actually happened in most of EU countries in the span of 2015-2020 and now we’re left with mob outfit taking care of the problem, just like in the prohibition times.


But it doesn't cover GG? Huh, that's odd.

Well, I guess I don't know much about the world situation in online poker, then. Other than that Canada and Mexico still seem pretty open to it, and I've got enough good sites serving America that I can mostly play as much as I care to. And apparently Austria is pretty welcoming to online poker; I've heard a lot of the top German pros moved there.


It does but they don’t care, they even have a polish official support, polish domain registered, whereas if you go to stars site, there is a gov stamp only and “this domain has been seized…” etc. Whenever you deposit to GG, each time the recipient is different, and usually is from Nigeria etc. it’s a mob Ponzi scheme online roulette, not a poker site. You mention they bought wsop? Remember that FTX bought.. ftx arena. As per the country of residence, U.K. is still based


This one time, at a band camp… Bitfinex, one of the largest crypto exchanges at the time, used to run an account in polish bank. But it wasn’t an international, business profiled banking service. It was a rural community bank in a village, an autonomous one. Old ladies working there dealing with other old ladies that have a bank account there only cause the gov requires it to sent them their pensions. And Bitfinex, after opening an LCC in Poland with founding capital of $1,5k, opened an account there. After that, they deposited total of $450 mil. But it’s ok


by GreatWhiteFish m

I always thought GG was Asian, not Italian?

Anyway if there was something shady going on there it would have to be a MASSIVE conspiracy. They just bought WSOP for $500 million, so it's not like they're some fly by night. They're now the biggest online poker site in the world.

O so this is why folks were dealt set over set at the main event!


by nonsimplesimon m

O so this is why folks were dealt set over set at the main event!

Laugh all the way you want until the ONLINE version of service that GG provides is exposed

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