$1/2 BB flop trips no kicker - are you raising?

Donk big, like pot, then call river. You can have anything, probably a 6, from V's perspective, given you haven't raised, only check called, and really, what draws are there?

You could have 2 overs, and while the flop bet was 150% pot or so, it was small enough that he shouldn't be surprised if you floated it. Bluffing an Ace seems like a thing a LL V like yourself might do, since you're now worried your 6 gets beat at showdown. This is a card that could be good for his range, given the same bet on turn, IME means he doesn't have much here.

He might actually have an Ace, though a bad one given the limp, and might raise your donk. Might think a big enough raise gets you to fold yours. We're not folding and we don't want V checking behind.

Would have check-raised the turn. You have a big hand, get some money in the pot.

You can’t react to resistance, if you never give villain anything to resist.

By waiting until the river, you risk the check behind. C/R the turn and now you’re the aggressor. You won’t be donking, just bet the river what you think he’ll call.

I will never entertain the thought of being behind in a limped pot & a $300 stack. You don’t ever consider the many hands you beat: A6, A8, 86, TT, 99, etc. that might stick around.

It’s always hard to get value OOP. As played, maybe bet $15 back at him & he might call. He might fold no matter what you do, but I would give villain the opportunity to fold earlier in the hand.

Skrrrr with the donk

Would have liked to check raise turn so we have the betting lead going to the river. As played, I think a large donk is fine, though if V is sun-running, I could see checking so we don't open our stack to a huge raise.

V's same bet sizing on the turn looks kinda weak. And the river is most likely just a brick. If he was betting a worse hand for value or bluffing, he may continue to bet if we check again. If we donk, he probably folds all his bluffs and weak value. Sometimes he'll come over the top, and we'll want to puke.

$25/fold is good depending on how good V is. He is deep, so he might raise for fun/info/pressure/just because 😉

Results: H is a fish. Checks river, V checks back A6. H surely left some value on the table.

V is a fish. He ran into aces up on the river after only having 1P when he was betting earlier streets, and yet now he checks back.

He probably would have called if you bet a reasonable amount with his exact holding, but he probably folds a lot of his worse hands, and you're just value-owning yourself against better hands.

I wouldn't beat yourself up about it. I think you played it fine on the river, when you only check-called the turn. You can't know he ran into aces up on the river.

The only way to get more value for your hand is to come out and donk flop or check-raise the turn, and even if you did either of those things, you could potentially be value-owning yourself, especially in a multi-way limped pot.

I think you have to check river if you get there, maybe fish call a donk enough that it isn't terrible and A6 specifically is in a very weird spot.

Would pretty much always have raised the flop or turn though. Esp. with the sizing, flop looks like fish overbet in limped pot size ... and then turn size way down to something close to his true hand value. 75 did get there, to scare others, but eh ... need to put some money in.

Raise turn or flop. On flop i could go either way but once you call. I'm definitely raising the turn always.

As played donk the river because he's going to check back with too many hands.

Turn we should check call vs a large sizing and check raise vs this small sizing.

Not sure why people think it's a check/raise on flop/turn with shitty kicker with trips only in a limp pot.

In a limp pot, it's pretty obvious you have trips when you raise on such board, but villain will only have better when call or reraise on top.

I think x/c'ing 2 street is fine then lead river is maybe ok. But it gets tricky if we get like a minclick.

I think we only check/raising boats/st8s on this board for value, or check/raising A4 on flop. Of course we can mix in some random bluffs or semi bluffs.

We have a marginal value hand in a limp pot. Let's keep the pot small while trying to find a max value line.

This is not how I would describe 74 on 644 8.

People shouldn't be playing 4x combos. Maybe they limp in with 54/43, and we still have to watch out for 88/66/64 if they decide to pile in the money when we x/r but realistically only A4 and maybe some K4s are in front, and we have straight draw outs as backup.

Also on turn there are a few draw hands that might want to raise, like 97/87/76.

If this is the case then why do they always call down 88 when I XR my gutshots here :(

I guess we play different pool, your pool has more fishy players.

This was exactly my thinking in hand. But posted it here because afterwards I had remorse not raising in there somewhere. Still not 100 % sure what the right play is.

I would also probably not fold top boat without reads 😉

Grunching title alone: no.
Grunching hand: yes, raise that $15 bet on the turn. V has something. It's not great but it's something.

I think your line of check-calling flop and checking turn is fine, up until the point when V makes the same $15 bet he made on the flop.

Occasionally V will have a very strong hand that takes this line hoping to induce a raise. But more often than not, this is just a marginal value hand, and we can raise our thick value. If we raise and V 3B's us, the bet size is small enough and the SPR high enough that we can get away from our hand.

Say we x/r to $45 or $60. V isn't likely to fold out any hand he was betting for thin value, nor is he likely to turn one of those hands into a bluff by 3B'ing. We're starting the hand $300 eff. We've put $17 into the pot getting to the turn. If we x/r to $45 or $60, we still have $223 to $238 left. If V 3B's, we can easily fold and be reasonably sure we were beat somehow.

Slow-playing flopped trips at low stakes is what Bart Hanson has dubbed the "negative equity slow-play", meaning that by slow-playing our hand we're giving opponents an opportunity to boat up with all their PP's, or complete some draw, and we're likely to end up losing a large pot, rather than winning a smaller pot if we'd folded out some of those hands.

Consider this - if you x/r the turn, it's very unlikely V continues by calling with any PP's lower than the top card on board, or any draws. He's more likely to continue with a range that consists of better value, or some piece of the board that either has some potential to improve (like 1P + a draw), or some piece of the board that blocks some of our thick value (like 6x / 8x).

If you x/r turn, and V calls, it's very likely that V is going to check back the river with everything we beat (as he did here), and bet large with everything that beats us. This is what I alluded to in my earlier post, when I said you could potentially be value-owning yourself if you donk flop or raise turn.

You will occasionally value-own yourself in spots like this, if you want to get max value, but the silver lining is that it's hard to get really hurt in a limped pot if you keep your head and don't over-play your hand.