Moderation Questions
Moderation Questions
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Moderation Questions

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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And you think he post in this way only to not get banned?


Roccoco confirmed angleshooter!


by weeeez m

And you think he post in this way only to not get banned

Of course not. Why would anyone think that?


by weeeez m

Roccoco confirmed angleshooter!

Huh????????

What in Sam Hill are you babbling about now?


by geezerchess m

I have long believed that several things can be true at the same time, to wit:1. It's easier to get banned if one takes positions that goes against the Spirit of the Age.2. We are all guests of 2p2, and the owners and moderators get to decide who can play in the sandbox and who can't.3. I said things that were offensive to those who were moderating at the time.4. So, my pe

Guest: "I think I should be able to take a shiit in your living room."

Host: "We don't permit that."

Guest: "I know. I'm just saying you should allow it. Not on the floor, but in a Home Depot bucket like Jesus used to do."

Host: "Yeah, well, we don't, and we don't want to discuss it."

Guest: "What's wrong with discussing it? I'm not going to do it - I just want to discuss why you don't allow it."

Host: "Not interested in the discussion. Either stop or we will remove you from our home."

Guest: "Yeah, we'll just discussing it isn't a big deal and you're being irrational."

Host: "You're outta here."

Former Guest: "I can't believe I was banned from their home for taking positions against the Spirt of the Age..."

by geezerchess m

The Bible is my shield, so of course I 'hide behind it.' Isn't that what a shield is for?

I could have a field day with this one, so we'll just leave it where we left if a month ago: it makes you a weasel.


by zers m

It's not hard to behave in a way that won't lead to a ban, but there's a good chance of getting one for expressing a viewpoint. I've seen bans just for arguing that a specific viewpoint should be allowed, not even supporting it. So with that, it's hard to avoid bans if one wants challenge norms and express profoundly unpopular viewpoints — not limited to those forbidden in the

This isn't a place to express profoundly unpopular viewpoints freely and actually never has been that type of place in its entire 25-30 year existence

I think many posters have a misconceived notion of the moderation though. Many who whine don't seem to understand that they would just be banned if the politics forum ever shut down. Many are only here by the grace of the mod team, and I mean CN, King Spew, and others before me, not me.

I would assume zers has a previous account. It would be quite unusual for the 2p2 politics forum to pull new users. The list of reasons for new accounts is pretty small, especially these days.

But we can address a couple things here:
1. Eugenics is a banned topic. This is because we defer to the current scientific consensus that Eugenics is pseudoscience. People like Luciom aren't experts and thus have no voice on the subject especially because his opinion is also a common dog whistle for abject racism.
2. Promotion specifically Nazi ideology is a banned topic. This is because its mostly illegal to do so all over the world and its an objectively dangerous world view.

Outside of those two topics nobody has caught a ban in a long time that I am aware of that wasn't tied to posting exclusively insults


And its not lost on me that this current wave of whining about the moderation is seemingly in response to Luciom, the guy who has been on the permaban chopping block for a year and a half, getting unbanned


by Land O Lakes m

Guest: "I think I should be able to take a shiit in your living room."Host: "We don't permit that."Guest: "I know. I'm just saying you should allow it. Not on the floor, but in a Home Depot bucket like Jesus used to do."Host: "Yeah, well, we don't, and we don't want to discuss it."Guest: "What's wrong with discussing it? I'm not going to do it - I just want to discuss why

bravo


Posting pro eugenics or Nazi views will get you banned? Well that's 90% of Luciom's output gone.


by coordi m

bravo

It is however slightly hard to believe you are stoopid enough to think Lake's post wasn't ridiculous and wasn't full of his usual lies about me.


by geezerchess m

There is a small flaw in your story: I absolutely, positively do believe and understand why I was banned, and I think given the House Rules they were correct in doing so. And I've said this several times, you lame-brain.

Hard to believe you're this stoopid. (Actually, it's not that hard.)

If you had any wits about you, you'd understand that, "I can't believe I was banned from their home for taking positions against the Spirt of the Age..." is not declaring one doesn't understand why they were banned.

Still, you kept pushing the envelope and blaming Jesus for it, like a twat. Now every other post of yours is some cringy ass kissing of the mods. If they let Lucy's dumbass back to posting vomit 300 times a day, I think you're probably safe so long as you don't go derping about trans/gays again.


by Land O Lakes m

If you had any wits about you, you'd understand that, "I can't believe I was banned from their home for taking positions against the Spirt of the Age..." is not declaring one doesn't understand why they were banned.

Have you always been as dumb as a post, or is this a recent development?

I have made it crystal clear that I WAS BANNED FOR REPEATEDLY POSTING STUFF THAT WAS DEEMED OFFENSIVE BY THE MODERATORS.

Sorry for the shouting, but sometimes shouting helps to get through to people like you who are really, really dumb.

Still, you kept pushing the envelope and blaming Jesus for it, like a twat. Now every other post of yours is some cringy ass kissing of the mods. If they let Lucy's dumbass back to posting vomit 300 times a day, I think you're probably safe so long as you don't go derping about trans/gays again.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings with me today. Make it a great day!


by Land O Lakes m

If you had any wits about you, you'd understand that, "I can't believe I was banned from their home for taking positions against the Spirt of the Age..." is not declaring one doesn't understand why they were banned. Still, you kept pushing the envelope and blaming Jesus for it, like a twat. Now every other post of yours is some cringy ass kissing of the mods. If they let Lucy's

My latest response to Coordi:

by geezerchess m

It is however slightly hard to believe you are stoopid enough to think Lake's post wasn't ridiculous and wasn't full of his usual lies about me.

I guess my 'kissing up' skills ain't what they used to be.

You're so stoopid it's actually humorous.


by coordi m

And its not lost on me that this current wave of whining about the moderation is seemingly in response to Luciom, the guy who has been on the permaban chopping block for a year and a half, getting unbanned

Afaik there was a poll ongoing about me while i got banned, with an absolute majority being against the ban.


by coordi m

This isn't a place to express profoundly unpopular viewpoints freely and actually never has been that type of place in its entire 25-30 year existence I think many posters have a misconceived notion of the moderation though. Many who whine don't seem to understand that they would just be banned if the politics forum ever shut down. Many are only here by the grace of the mod t

Fact is hating immigration deeply and in what you guys consider "extremist" ways isn't "profoundly unpopular". A candidate for the presidency running on "we will deport every single illegal" won the elections. Afd is the first party in german polls. Meloni governs in Italy after campaigning for years against how immigration is a wound on our country. 58% of italians wanted a COMPLETE BAN ON ANY ILLEGAL BOAT LANDING IN ITALY in a poll in 2023 including being willing to use the navy to sink any boat trying to bring asylum seekers in.

Poland politics are between an actually extremist righwting party, and a "moderate" rightwing party which passed a law allowing militaries to shoot to kill trespassers on the border.

I got a temp ban (first i got i think?) because i called TRASH the criminals who immigrated illegally in Italy lol (it's a crime to illegally enter Italy, as it is in many countries). That's a majoritarian view in my country and in most other countries.

Btw you are completly factually wrong about the current scientific consensus about eugenics. Aborting down syndrome fetuses is eugenics for example. That's uncontroversial, ask any expert, ask any well educated person even in other field, ask rococo or ecritude if you don't believe me.

What you might mean is something else, that you believe that racial differences in traits have 0 genetic determinants. That's not the consensus either, but it is on the cultural left which is the only voice you are willing to listen to for any topic.


by Luciom m

Afaik there was a poll ongoing about me while i got banned, with an absolute majority being against the ban.

That is correct!


by geezerchess m

My latest response to Coordi:

I guess my 'kissing up' skills ain't what they used to be.

You're so stoopid it's actually humorous.

Listen up, chief, coordi likely realizes my post was mocking all you fools and not specifically you - I just had to include the Spirt of the Age line because it's especially ******ed.

by geezerchess m

I guess my 'kissing up' skills ain't what they used to be.

Shiit... you lay it on so thick with CN that if we didn't know you are a virgin scared of females, one would think you're trying to rizz to get into her pants and see if she can sing a quadruple C.


People care way too much about being banned.

I got banned from twitter for telling a nazi to do the right thing (starts with an s).

Sometimes you just get banned for being based. Comes with the territory.


by Luciom m

Afaik there was a poll ongoing about me while i got banned, with an absolute majority being against the ban.

There wasn't a poll, per se. It was a few razor's edge posters saying you should be unbanned because... Victor, I guess.


by Land O Lakes m

There wasn't a poll, per se. It was a few razor's edge posters saying you should be unbanned because... Victor, I guess.

There was an actual poll ongoing, and that was before i got banned. I got banned because i wrote in favour of free speech on reddit (a USA platform, subject to american jurisdiction only) for nazist and mysoginists, in that very thread.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/285/p...


by Land O Lakes m

Listen up, chief, coordi likely realizes my post was mocking all you fools and not specifically you - I just had to include the Spirt of the Age line because it's especially ******ed.

Fair enough!

Shiit... you lay it on so thick with CN that if we didn't know you are a virgin scared of females, one would think you're trying to rizz to get into her pants and see if she can sing a quadruple C.

I ain't scared of no females bro. (Okay, except for CN.)


by Land O Lakes m

There wasn't a poll, per se. It was a few razor's edge posters saying you should be unbanned because... Victor, I guess.

Actually, there was an actual poll.

(Oops, sorry for the slow pony.)


by Luciom m

There was an actual poll ongoing, and that was before i got banned. I got banned because i wrote in favour of free speech on reddit (a USA platform, subject to american jurisdiction only) for nazist and mysoginists, in that very thread.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/285/p...

Okay, so if you knew there was a poll, then why did pose it as "afaik" when you knew it existed and you squeaked by 15:12?

Lol at "muh First Amendment rights are being violated on Reddit." Congress, bro, shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech...


by Land O Lakes m

Shiit... you lay it on so thick with CN that if we didn't know you are a virgin scared of females, one would think you're trying to rizz to get into her pants and see if she can sing a quadruple C.

I guess my flattery skills need work, too:

by geezerchess m

Please don't interrupt Crossnerd's narrative with facts. Thanking you in advance.

You are amazingly dumb.


by Land O Lakes m

Okay, so if you knew there was a poll, then why did pose it as "afaik" when you knew it existed and you squeaked by 15:12?

Lol at "muh First Amendment rights are being violated on Reddit." Congress, bro, shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech...

it was 21 to 6 against a ban. "squeaked by".

I wrote "afaik" tongue in cheeck because cordie was very aware of that thread and that poll, given he wrote in it.

I didn't claim 1a was being violated on reddit, read it in the thread. I claimed it was better when nazis and mysoginists were allowed to write there.

Now that said there is the topic of section 230 which... if you want the privilege to lose legal responsibility for the content your platform carries, it would make sense that doesn't allow for curation of content at all. If you curate content then you should assume the legal responsibility for that content.

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