Nines
1/3 $400 effective, just began play
2 unknowns:
V1 (40s, seems competent) opens UTG1 to $15.
V2 (I can’t tell anything with women, need more time) raises to $50 from CO.
Hero in small blind with 99
Big blind seems disinterested
Hero?
Relatively easy fold
When was the last time you've seen a girl 3bet a hand weaker than 99? Super easy fold.
Not a rule by any means but with no other info I tend to agree with this statement. If this is the first raise I've seen from this opponent regardless of sex I'm always folding. If you could put villain on AA-QQ maybe worth a set mine attempt.
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Very standard fold with no info. If you've played 50 hands and you have a sense of what they might be doing, then you can potentially make a different choice.
This spot becomes close with jacks or queens.
I would flat JJ, partly to set mine and partly to get a read if they are good postflop. I don't think you are deep enough to flat 99, even though it will probably go 3-ways.
Hero considered folding, but raised $120. Folds to V2 who calls
Pot $255
Flop 8h3s4c
Hero?
As OmahaDonk said, there's a preflop discussion with QQ or JJ. Snap fold with TT and below.
You did use a sizing which doesn't commit you postflop, although CO is getting something like 2.7/1 on a call in position, so probably doesn't fold much. With that in mind, what range do you give them?
Now you have an overpair to a dry flop. Whatever range you give her, it seems clear that she either has an overpair or a hand which doesn't connect at all with the board (I mean she could have the odd 88 or A5s or something).
So you could check-call if you think she blasts (do you want to play for stacks?), check-fold (sunk cost fallacy) or bet really small to deny equity to overcards.
Fold pre, EZ game.
Flop, I have no idea how to play this. You are either crushed or ahead and need to collect your equity because she has way more outs than you. So I guess bet and try to turn a set if she calls.
Making it 120 is awful. You lose 120 if she shoves. Maybe trying to find out where you are at, but you don't find that out. 1/2 players will flat with higher pps, maybe their whole range. Calling and playing it 3-ways, mostly for a set, loses some, but is better than 4!ing.
You need to learn to sometimes fold 99+/AQ+ to a 3!, particularly at 1/2, where 3!s are usually strong. If you have to see a flop, call and see a flop.
You play preflop like a typical 1/2 or 1/3 player. You need to fold playable or strong hands in some situations. This hand, and then the one you posted where you limp/called 54s.
Oh no :x playing pair against higher pair and then flopping low cards is how you go broke.
I suppose villain could still have big broadways, so you should cbet now, but if she calls you once, you're done. But don't blast it, like maybe 80$.
You have an SPR <2 and an overpair. You might as well just rip off the bandaid and shove.
This is definitely sunk cost fallacy and the worst of all options; you only get called, if at all, by AK and hands which you have two outs against. I think on balance given the bad scenario we've dug ourselves into I prefer a 1/4 pot cbet and then give up if called.
You have an SPR <2 and an overpair. You might as well just rip off the bandaid and shove.
This is definitely sunk cost fallacy and the worst of all options; you only get called, if at all, by AK and hands which you have two outs against. I think on balance given the bad scenario we've dug ourselves into I prefer a 1/4 pot cbet and then give up if called.
You're assuming TT/JJ always call?
Also, I don't know if AK will fold (or even should fold) to a 1/4 pot c-bet.
Of course, we're only here because of the reckless pre-flop raise.
EZ fold for me. Even without solid reads / etc., we're facing a 3bet at LLSNL plus we still have the EP initial raiser to react (so can't really risk a ~setmining flat, not that we're getting anywhere remotely close to the IO we'd need). Typically we're flipping at best / crushed at worse, and probably have little FE versus a typical LLSNL 3bet, so 4betting seems very meh too.
ETA: As played, we have a little over a PSB left. I'd probably just lie in the bed I've made and shove now. QQ-99 is put in a ~gross spot and we protect against overs. I'm guessing "standard" here would be like 1/3 PSB, but that will leave us like lol 60% PSB remaining where we're going to hate half the deck on the turn.
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That's a fair criticism. It does feel rather perverse turning an overpair into a bluff on the flop in a 4bet pot...
Of course, we're only here because of the reckless pre-flop raise.
...but we can agree that this is the root cause of the perverse situation
X/f the flop as played. You could shove and she has AK, some light 3! or folds TT/JJ. Betting small just gets you into more trouble.
Flat calling is bad, but not that bad. The 4! just throws away another $70.
instafold pre you cannot set mine here not closing action. 4betting pre is crazy.
as played 1/4-1/3 pot to get Ax to call and then jam turn to protect equity sounds about right, but dont be surprised if you run into JJ. obviously fold to a flop raise.
betting flop big just gets you owned vs better. of course that might happen anyway on the turn but its less likely.
Hero bets pot $255
Villain mucks quickly, doesn’t show
In my experience, it’s much easier to get a woman to fold to pressure than a man. I don’t know anything about her, but she doesn’t know anything about me either.
Expected mostly negative feedback, that’s the nature of this site. But I do this kinda line all the time, rarely fails. There’s people on here who know solvers & know theory, but they don’t know sh-t about $1/$3 NL Hold’em.
She probably had AK and you were ahead.
This is about the worst hand to 4! bluff with. You have no blockers, you rarely make draws, and if you gii on the flop, you are almost always about 10% to win. It plays about the same here as 22.
You are definitely representing AA/KK with the 4!, but he ep 3! is often AA/KK at 1/3. Also, low stakes players tend to gii with JJ or whatever, not being able to fold a big hand, even if you are representing a bigger one.
Sorry, I know you are posting hands where you made what people here think are bad plays and you won big pots. However, I don't think you are going to convince many here how brilliant you are.
Sorry, I know you are posting hands where you made what people here think are bad plays and you won big pots. However, I don't think you are going to convince many here how brilliant you are.
O no, I am only trying to help on here. I’m nothing special. I played badly yesterday.
I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything, just telling my story. There’s a lot of overthinking on this site.
In my experience at $1/$3 if you come out of the gate firing with authority, people get out of your way - the cards don’t matter
Unfortunately, the people on this site have not convinced me they are brilliant either. Negative yes, but it’s all about what you did wrong with little advice on a better way
Close to an outright lie as far as this hand goes. Where you went wrong was 4betting pre, the ovewhelming feedback was "fold pre". It doesn't require a dissertation to explain how to play this hand better.
