1/3: Turn NF, river pairs board

1/3: Turn NF, river pairs board

Im playing 1/3 at my local casino and I’m around a little over 200bb deep and am the effective stack. I was playing at a table all night but it shut down and I had to go to a new table.

Around 4 hands in, I get dealt Ad9d on the SB.
And it folds to the button who raises to 20.
I feel like I should have re raised this since I’m OOP, but I elect to call. BB (unknown) also calls.

Pot~55 (after rake(
Flop: Kd10d7h.
Hero check,
Big blind bets 20.
Button folds, and I min raise to 40. Big blind calls.

Pot~135
Turn: 2d giving us nut flush
Hero: check
BB: bets $50 and hero c/r to 125, he calls.

Pot: 380ish
River comes a Kh, pairing the board
Hero checks, V really thinks and eyes my stack for a min or two, before betting almost exactly how much I have left. ( slight overbet) I know this was extremely suspicious, but can I fold NF here?

16 August 2025 at 05:31 PM
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1) you misplayed every street. first, 3 bet pre. as played dont raise the flop, especially not for this sizing (what does minraising accomplish exactly?). as played no idea why you checked the turn. and as played no idea why you checked the river, its an easy bet around like 1/3 pot, fold to a raise.
2) if the other guy had a smaller flush or some other worse hand i doubt youd be posting this
3) dont post results when asking advice


Preflop is a huge blunder, you should be 3b or folding vs a button raise in the sb. Given his enormous sizing I would just fold.

Flop if you’re going to check raise a semi bluff you should give yourself some fold equity and check raise larger.

Turn you should be blasting with the nuts instead of letting him check back. If he didn’t turn two pair he would’ve checked back. Again, if you’re going to check raise, go big. Build a big pot when you have it!

River is gross. I think we’re mostly beating bluffs but the way this guy has played the hand makes me think he has more bluffs than most players. I probably sigh call and hope he has a smaller flush.


Welcome to the forum, OP. As nittyoldman said, please don't post results (including hero's last action) as they tend to bias advice. I edited them out and put the hand in an easier to read format. Please wait until discussion dies down, or at least 24 hours, whichever is longer, before posting results.

I won't comment on river, since I saw results, but for everythin pre, I agree with OmahaDonk.

Pre is a fold, unless you think BTN is just trying to buy the pot, in which case it is a re-raise.

Flop c/r is way too small. Either call or c/r at least 3x, probably more.

Turn check is the worst mistake in the hand, imo. If he checks back here, you'll have lost ginormous value. Your hand doesn't look like a flush, given how small your flop c/r was, so you can bet big here for fat value. AP, if you're going to c/r go much bigger. Your raise of $75 gives him pot odds of 4:1, or to put it another way, he only needs 20% equity to call it. If he already has 2p, he has an 8% chance of catching, and if he has a set, he has 20% already. And that's without his implied odds of how much of your stack he can get if he hits. Get that value with the nuts!

River: as I said, I saw results, so won't comment.


by Garick

Welcome to the forum, OP. As nittyoldman said, please don't post results (including hero's last action) as they tend to bias advice. I edited them out and put the hand in an easier to read format. Please wait until discussion dies down, or at least 24 hours, whichever is longer, before posting results.I won't comment on river, since I saw results, but for everythin pre, I ag

Thanks for your input Garick. YouÂ’re right about the turn. ThatÂ’s too risky checking it with the nuts, I really should have blasted just based on how the situation went thus far.


by OmahaDonk

Preflop is a huge blunder, you should be 3b or folding vs a button raise in the sb. Given his enormous sizing I would just fold.Flop if you’re going to check raise a semi bluff you should give yourself some fold equity and check raise larger. Turn you should be blasting with the nuts instead of letting him check back. If he didn’t turn two pair he would’ve che

Thanks for the input. I know I should have raised 3x if I wanted to play pre flop. Min raise on flop really accomplishes nothing as someone else said. Since I did min raise on flop, your right I should have blasted the turn.


by ztpaulos

Thanks for the input. I know I should have raised 3x if I wanted to play pre flop. Min raise on flop really accomplishes nothing as someone else said. Since I did min raise on flop, your right I should have blasted the turn.

Also, he raised to 6.7 which was $20. Couod we fix that please


Fixed. I accidentally left the BB in there when I converted to $. Folks in this forum tend to think in terms of actual $, both because it's simpler and because our Vs sometimes think in terms of the cash value of a bet, rather than how many BBs it is, or how much of the pot it represents.


by Garick

Welcome to the forum, OP. As nittyoldman said, please don't post results (including hero's last action) as they tend to bias advice. I edited them out and put the hand in an easier to read format. Please wait until discussion dies down, or at least 24 hours, whichever is longer, before posting results.I won't comment on river, since I saw results, but for everythin pre, I ag

I know that I played this hand very poorly, but lets say it was played out exactly up until his shove on the river. Are you good enough to fold that?


IDK. His line looks a lot like KT, but with an unknown it would probably come down to population reads in this room, especially how aggro it tends to play, and maybe some demographics about V (especially age, dress, and chip handling, but to a certain extent ethnicity, as different cultures have different norms around gambling).

If this is an aggressive room where he might be raising with a lower flush, I probably put in a crying call. If V is wearing a lot of chunky jewelry and a tracksuit, I snap call, though now I'm worried about the crappier boats, but I'm also loving life against a lot of crappy flushes and trips. If V is a little old lady who responded slowly to every action, I'm snap folding. If V is a generic MAWG and the room is a standard American loose/passive game, I'm sigh folding and kicking myself for not betting more earlier.


I think that most likely villain had a full house.

The way he eyed your stack and tried to bet exactly what you have left seems like he thought it would be less scary to you to call vs him going all in.

I don’t like the small check raise on the flop or the turn. I would aim to make it bigger.


Calling preflop seems like the worst of our options. Facing a huge 7x raise, even from a Button open, I would just lean to a fold.

I have no idea what the point of our flop minraise is? If we're trying to flex FE (which is fine with all our hand equity), then make a real raise, imo.

I also just bomb the turn cuz we're not really supposed to be the one with the flush. Very fortunate things didn't check thru which would have been a disaster. I also check/raise a lot bigger as this guy likely has a big hand if he's betting this turn plus it sets up a river shove easier.

Terrible river but even with just over a PSB left I think I would lean to a small bet/fold. A bet ensures some money goes in the times we are ahead, whereas a check/call leans to money going in when we're behind (as worse will so often find a check back but will consider calling a small bet).

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