The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

man slugant. you dont get it let me help you. john is the best poker player ever or very close. that we know. How do we now it? he bluffed 7 times in a row a feat only happening once in a lifetime at most.

So if he doesnt win that means its rigged so he would crush the stakes mentioned if it wasnt rigged along with every other stake.

yeah no I am not going to participate in your fever dream of a analysis. I will just continue to poke fun at you as this is the only interaction you deserve as talking to you in an honest manner and investing effort in it is a waste. you are just too narrow minded and arrogant.

shows what you know slugant. its not unprofitable if they fold! Maybe John can teach you how to be results orientated. When analysing poker you should only ever look at results and the smaller the sample size the better.

God damn amateur.

If I'd believe that to be true you would never see me here again :p
To be honest the skill difference between mid & high stakes (especially the top dog there) is immense. I've played high stakes when table-selecting hard but even mentally its so different because of the large sums. You have to be a different beast to battle Linus, not just someone who spend a lot of time with solvers. Which I have btw, I just also like it here on 2+2

I dont know you nor have i seen your graph, you made a lot of assumptions there.
I am not a mission to say everything legit in online poker either, I have called out many wrongdoings from bot farms to pvi to colluding to rta whatever. Things that have been proven.
A rigged RNG has never been proven and the so-called evidence provided is severely lacking any significance. And when they have stories of significance they somehow refuse to add any proof
Unfortunately the latter is something you just did as well because... (guess thats shot😉)

If card distribution is deviant from the expected this is easily showable.
If you claim that on SB shoves villain in the BB has way more A6 than he should have you can show this obvious discrepency. I hope you are familiar with trackers, because something like this would take a couple of minutes to show in holdem manager for instance. Filter for SB shoves with 55 and where you expect A6 to be there some of the time, according to you it would show up a lot. And the same logic goes for other hands.
That way you show a pattern of how the RNG is being manipulated. Easy Peasy.
Now pls dont be as lazy as the rest of the riggies and actually show something useful😉

Guys, excuse me for the late answers, I got pretty short time to do necessary stuff.

Hope to come back later.

But here, it's important for you to know, that in case you disagree with ignoring of information regarding iPoker by iPoker's support and by The Curacao Gaming Control Board (Red Star Poker is licensed by this organization), you can use my materials now to make a reasonable pressure on iPoker. In case you agree they act fraudulent way.

https://twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59065...

Johnny, how can you expect others to join forces with your investigation when its far from complete?
I mean, would you buy a car without an engine?? NO, how can you expect people to e-mail parties about your unfinished product?? This is amateur analyst stuff.

When people point out to you that other players who do win structurally are playing with the same RNG you always say they win because of factors like Multitabling & playing a certain style. In fact, you "know" all the factors as to why pro's are winning even though they play worse than you. You can implement those factors, show it, and make shitload of money in the process.
We all believe in you immediately of course but it is noteworthy that this concept has never been tested by you. Other stuff you spend countless hours in Excel on, this just gets mentioned on the side. Thats not the backing we expect from a top analyst!
1tabling at the micros makes you lose and thats what you chose to do... genius move of course. Now we know that the software makes a good player lose just because he 1tables 0.20 sng's

But now Johnny, to complete your research, you should do the other side of the coin. You've told us before its easy to beat the game, most professionals are in fact sub-par players. We would like to see this in action.
If you start multitabling NOW (and not in 2010) and suddenly are winning substantially you've proven that poker sites prefer multitablers and you can actually play and beat poker!
What do you say Johnny?
I know you wouldnt like incomplete research since you are a top analyst.
People who are reading your research and you are asking to join in also deserve a full investigation and not a one-sided one.
If you could show a losing microstakes player will suddenly win just because he starts multitabling you have proven everyone wrong and finally end your 6 year losing streak. Even Curacao wouldnt be able to deny your claims then.

Good luck with the next step in your research and we you are done with your investigation ON BOTH SIDES of the story I reckon people will join your investigation. Right now all you have proven is how to lose (anybody can do that) now its time to prove how to win!

Cmon man, be the top analyst you claim you are and not a lazy sloppy one, we already got enough of those.

PS: Your bio still says you play "Holdem MTT 10$-100$, heads up, LH cash"
As we can see from your last 6 years you've played some 10nl.... very poorly. And your avg stake is 0.43, quite different from that $100 LOLOL

You might want to change your bio soon otherwise anybody who reads your research cannot trust you since you seem to have no problem with being a liar!

Those gaming boards aren't ignoring you, Johnmir. They're laughing at you

3 years of playing like that + several months on Pokerstars. I only play “normal” poker first 1-2 weeks and I was winning.

You can check it in my whole statistics downloaded directly from a poker client of iPoker, if you still doubt it –
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z_3y2zq...

I started to only shove (those bluffs on a postflop were played on only 9 MTT bounty tournaments, which I played for Gipsy Team forum, and only in the starting stage of it) after I checked, once again, that I didn’t manage to get more than +5% to my starting stack in the first hour of tournament.

This moment I realized – participating in a postflop, in case software limits your ROI, is simply senseless. Because if you fold your hand before a showdown, it’s impossible to prove rigging of the game – thus, the software uses this “nuance” of poker gaming to rig the game badly.

And that is why software of iPoker “suggests” a tight player to play a postflop –

Because it’s the best way for the room’s managers to “unprovably” equalize players between each other (or to reduce their max profit to a minimal level – my god, Slugant doesn’t understand this. Every time he asks “how do other guys win then??” – man, TO A MINIMAL LEVEL, 30%-50% is only possible for most part of strong players!!!!).

If you check, which tournaments I mainly played on iPoker – hyper-turbo DoNs.

Why? Why would an aggressive postflop player refuse playing normal poker and went to a hyper-turbo circus arcade?

Because you can just push/fold there. And, as a result, you can try to “beat” the software of the room like that. But I didn’t manage, lol.

Look, this is your personal thoughts. This is how you see this, while me, at the same time say, totally different stuff –

“Greetings, guys, 2+2 forum users,

I find it reasonable to inform you about the situation and to warn about possible outcomes while you participate in games organized by iPoker.”

“While I was seriously injured I found it interesting and reasonable to use my abilities and to find some answers to what is going on in an online direction of poker gaming.”

“I got closed in the flat for several years, and even after I found all this, how they rig the game and what is really going on Pokerstars (then on iPoker) I didn't even plan to share this. But I decided it was a bad idea to "hide" this information from public.

In my opinion. Rules of gaming should be announced to everyone. At the moment there is a pretty big part of players are not getting the results, because iPoker (also Pokerstars) totally control profitability of players, they classify them. Everyone wins according to an "assessment" of the rooms internal system of gaming level of the player.”

I say totally different stuff. But your point is that everyone who loses in unfair game is starting to talk about that, cause of his ego.

Man, in a real life, people start to talk about unfair game, cause it’s not legal.

Try to brake laws and to say to the police “you just can’t accept that someone decided to live free, and to do what he wants”, or what is your point, DJ?

iPoker – is a crime. A fraudulent organization.

Totally agree with you. But, I have read books, DJ. You say, that the game evolves. But the problem is that it doesn’t evolves online. Calculators evolve, but not the gaming!

You need to learn more, in case you lose to your opponents in a fair gaming.
If I come to play offline and start to lose, I will start reading something else, start working on my gameplay.

But while I’m losing (or winning 30% ROI! It's the same, it's lauphable) to housewifes/to guys, who relax on micros after a workday, and while I see, that the game is not random – simply statistically it is not random. I don’t see any reason to continue improving my gaming for an online gaming - it is rigged.

Look, I start to think that you intentionally say this, DJ, to mislead guys.

Because the history of our communication here on the forum was totally different –

Slugant was talking about me as about microstakes player. I didn’t show any stats. And asked you all, many times, to concentrate on my research. You refused.

You ignored my research, am I right? Should I send you your reactions to remind that you did ignore it?

And only much more time later I shown my results and said –

And look at my answer to your question if I consider myself a good player (top 10%/top 1%)

In other words, you intentionally try to build some negative image of me here in the chat.

What for are you and Slugant doing this? Could you, please, answer this question?

You try to describe me on the most negative possible manner, while I'm trying just to discuss my materials.

Why didn’t any one upload 7 successive bluffs in a row? Just a question? Do you have any?
How did I manage to do it in the 7th MTT, which I played in 5 years? Got extremely lucky? Man, how did I steal the pots? I didn’t go all-in every time. Just a usual betting.

Offline pros know – I wasn’t lucky, I just read my opponents like a real pro player would.

If you are pros? Prove that you bluff effectively. Or at least prove you try to bluff 30-50% of pots having weak hand on the flop – otherwise you can’t be considered as poker pros.

And, guys, you started to comment my gaming level in a rigged game BEFORE watched my results. So what do you expect? Of course I comment weak points of multitabling, since you go for negative comments regarding my gameplay even not knowing me! Crazy.

But you didn't expect I'm really good, right? Didn't expect I will comment online-gaming in details. I did, DJ, since i'm aware. Unlucky here. Yes, you shouldn't got for negative comments towards me! Was a mistake of you.

Sometimes guys say something, that I agree with. You know, it’s important to understand the difference between my findings and general discussion. I also take part in a common discussion of the situation. And I never go for “auto-agreed” mode. Still I will pay attention to your comment and will do my best to be objective.

Man, I don’t even play poker seriously for 5 years! I do not care about my level/results, anything else, except sharing the materials, so that people would know what is going on.

I'm one of guys, who presented pretty many researches. That is why, it looks like I try to be in the centre of the situation, but in real, I can't even answer you in time... I wish guys would get the situation and say "ok, John, we got you. iPoker is penalized, you are free now!". And I will be totally happy to concentrate on other stuff!

Man, it's too obvious that I don't suck at poker, but it is not any important even if I did suck! God! ))
Totally different topic is under discussion here!

Yeah, and now we come back to this comment. So which indicators do you have (okay not you, you just try to build a negative image of me, intentionally), but the question which indicators do other guys have? I mean, I don't look like a newcomer, and I'm not. What for are you keeping discussing my gaming level even though you are losing every argument.

Trying to avoid discussion of rigging in iPoker?

I'm not alone who noticed that. A total silence here regarding rigging in the room, right after I uploaded my info!

If I was iPoker's support I would also lauph been totally covered by Curacao! ))

Same as Curacao collecting the money for the licensing with no need to asnwer emails 😃

A great job!

P.S. Do you know - I asked one of players, who, I know, sent them (to iPoker) "angry" messages regarding RNG. And they always answered him to his "WTF!!! The game is unfair!!" Messages.
But once a real stats were sent, they decided to ignore it... WOW! What a surprise!

In fact, ICS, we would play the same tables with you, if I decided to play on iPoker to win something! ))
Cool that you manage to find enough games there. The problem is that games (SnGs) don't start as often as on Party/Pokerstars there... ((

Look, I lost due to totally different reasons. And explaining it here in the chat is just senseless, the only way is to show it. And even then you would say "oh cmon! John, we didn't even see his hand!"

But, look, I didn't play there to win. Still, it's a special case that I didn't manage to play +EV, man. Though, you don't know me, so it tells you nothing. This is a huge problem, guys don't know me here.

Look, it's far more interesting than that, ICS.
Try to pay attention, how the software works.
Can you try to predict which players should win the game (join prizes on a DoN game) after you saw the first 5-7 game cones (hands played)?

And then, watch how exactly they join prices.

1. They never lose all-ins with all the chips involved.
2. Once 4 players left and they lost their stack for some reason (irrational overfolding on BB position, while BB level is very high) - they win any postflop they get involved in.

The software simply "keeps" weak players, who are prioritized to win exactly this game (DoN/another SnG), in the game by always "making them back" on any next postflop, which they decided to participate in.

In my opinion it's too obvious not to notice this - but in case you do understand how the software works. Just check this. And you will get the logic of the hands distributing.

It would be very cool if you checked those distances on Primedope tournament variance calculator.

Then we would assess how often it should has happened in a random game.

But guys here will probably tell you "you just played well/bad those weeks" 😃

ICS, pity you, guys, don't know me personally.

Paranoia is for those who "care too much" or for those who "try to feel" instead of just check the info.

All I said here - it's a result of a crazy number of checks and statistical calculations. You can not believe in it for years. But at the end you will come to the same conclusions, because it was done as a result of deep and attentive investigation of the situation.

One of reasons, why I played micros on iPoker - I didn't want to be any attracted to gaming. I wanted just to "observe" the gaming process and to analyze it's results. So, if you think that i'm somehow basing on personal feelings - man, I just observed the game, input data in excel and found dependencies. Then checked it in a real gaming - that's all.

Is the game predictable? Yes, it is predictable.

But not the hands - the game situations are totally algoritmic. This is not a random game in any way.

Anyway, once again, guys, some day you will come to this point. I hope I managed to make this day closer ))

And thank you for sharing your thoughts here. Pretty brave of you. Seriously.
In fact, we all just share our opinions. At the end, everyone takes optimal decisions for himself basing on the max available info!

Johnny has gone mental again, guess the time he took off didnt do him so well after all

But Johnny the fact remains your research is very incomplete

You've been proving for 6 years that you can lose. Well done man, what a fantastic job of playing -25bb/100 at 10nl and having a negative roi at avg stake of 0.43 for 6 years straight 🙂
But you have never proven that when you play according to the software rules you could win.
Even though thats your entire argument when asked why other players do structurally win... not over weeks but over years and years.
Its time for you to prove that and finally complete your research.

By refusing to do so and keep repeating the same mumbo jumbo about losing you are proving not just to be an amateur level poker player but also an amateur level analyst.
No wonder you are not a financial analyst anymore. Did you refuse to do a whole proper job there as well??

And yet you ask everyone to join forces with you... Complete your research first lazy man!
And learn to prioritize. In the time it took you to make those 2 posts you could have a multitabling session, cleaning house & finally work towards having an actual end product.

Right now its exactly the same as me saying "I can beat djokovic, alcaraz & sinner in a game of tennis easily, I just "decide" not too play according to the rules"
Obvious bullshit, just like you. First I need to show that when I play according these "hidden rules" I win, otherwise I am just a sore loser.
And thats all you have proven so far, that you are a sore loser. In all those posts & excel sheets literally 0.000000% is about winning when playing according to the sites hidden rules. Even though you claim the game is predictable. Well, go win structurally then to show the other side of the coin. Why are you so opposed to playing a winning strategy? (answer: because johnmir simply can't)

PS: since when do we have to know you personally to make judgements? How many of us do you know personally and you make judgements about everyone. Disagreeing people are shills, pro poker players are bad poker players who only win because they play according to the "hidden rules". How would you know? You have 0.000% of this in your research. Go finish your product before publishing it, who would publish a book thats missing the most important half part of the story. Would you? Would you have bought sklanksy's books if all it tell was how to lose and never shows how to win?

PPS: Your bio still says you play "Holdem MTT 10$-100$, heads up, LH cash"
As we can see from your last 6 years you've played some 10nl.... very poorly. And your avg stake is 0.43, quite different from that $100 LOLOL

You might want to change your bio soon otherwise anybody who reads your research cannot trust you since you seem to have no problem with being a liar!

This guy is spending literal hours just to make posts

And in the same breath claims he's doing it to save other people time

Truly fascinating, truly astonishing, and abso****inglutely hilarious

ETA: This thread has gotten so dumb and cyclical that I'm beginning to wonder if it's just filled with bots, fake accounts, and ChatGPT all just straight engagement farming

But at the same he refuses to do half of his research. And he cant find the time to multitable to prove the other side of the entire story he created. He is clearly not the hero the poker community needs.
Poker players who want a fair game deserve a top analyst, not a sloppy lazy amateur level one like Johnmir.

(TD, I decided to post those 31 of 47 flops on a probability forum, may be in a week, thank you for the advice.
Slgnt ))) I hope to prepare a cool picture-scheme of our communication in the thread a bit later. Working on it in paint)

Guys, due to our discussions, I think it’s useful to comment it in this thread.

If you try to search in google for the answer to “What sample size is necessary to analyze poker data”. One of possible responses to this query is

(AI Overview)
"For analyzing poker hand data, a good sample size for reliable results is generally at least 50,000 hands, and ideally 100,000 or more, especially for online cash games. However, the optimal size depends on several factors, including the specific statistics being analyzed, the game type, and the desired level of confidence."

Pay attention to this phrases – “the desired level of confidence”, “the specific statistics being analyzed”.

Look, I have successfully worked for insurance companies as a key risk analyst for 10 years.

If you ask me “What sample size is necessary to develop a tariff system for car insurance [pricing in insurance], basing on the internal insurance company's data base?”.

I will answer you – “You need to gather around 15 000 policies and around 10 000 claims paid. But, still, you will have to use approximation to full fill all the sectors of the final rating system. So, I would recommend to recalculate prices after your gather 30 000 policies and it’s outcomes-claims”.

But, at the same time, if I see, that only 3 “Mazda 3” cars were stolen in a town where the insurance company insured 6 of them – I will never allow (in case I’m in position of an underwriter of the company) to insure them in this town for the near future, because it’s –

The level of confidence of “another non-random factors take place” is 99.998%.
(For example, this car model is stolen critically more often due to its expensive parts. Thefts steal it to sell its parts.)
If you need to be sure, you can consult with other professional insurance risk analysts. I doubt they will answer you something different.

In easy words. Every variance is “acceptable” for each distance and for each data to be analyzed.

If you say “I understand the variance”. It’s means, you understand what level of variance complies to which confidence intervals (chances for the deviation) on which sample sizes.

If you do not understand this, you just “accept” the variance. But don’t understand it. This kind of behavior is closer to a “common life” statements like “everything in life is random”. And is not any close to a real situation, where people start to search for reasons, instead of “accepting” everything they face.

One of the key reasons, why many people consider online poker random – they do not understand the variance.

I refused to play online to earn for living in 2008 (even though I was a student and made 2500$ starting from 2$ won on a free roll), because I did understand that in case I start to play on every next room and start to win right after I joined it – it’s not a variance in a random game. My gaming results can’t be only positive in the first 1/2 weeks of gaming on every next site.

The same goes to the bankroll.
It’s not expected to start losing right after you increase your bankroll to the same amount of money, not in a random game. +100$ = down streak starts, +100$ = down streak starts.

All this is a clean and an obvious sign of “non-random factors interfere into the game”. For example, a room tries to involve a new player (client) into the gaming on the site (yes, it perfectly “complies” with the “responsible gambling” policy of the rooms – they try to involve players into gambling).

Guys, I proved rigging on several sites.
My proof of rigging on Partypoker is based on 39 570 hands (I shared some information on other poker forum regarding Party).

And it proves rigging with a level of confidence - 99.98%.

But, I still decided to upload a proof regarding iPoker, because, even though it was initially based on 900 hands, but it proves rigging with a level of confidence 99.999 999 992%.

And I had to upload my research not for players, who don’t understand the variance. I uploaded it for Gambling supervision authorities, who clearly understand all the described above.

By all means, make a pretty picture in paint & post the 31 flops for the 20th time.

Or.... Finish your research you dope. You keep avoiding the most important part of your whole hypothesis.
Play not according to site rules = LOSE (you have been proving this forever, great job)
Play according to site rules = WIN

The latter you havent spent a single minute on. And you want to rehash your old **** again??
No wonder you WERE an analyst because you are not a good one. Top analysts actually focus on more than area and dont coward away from the challenge of proving a difficult point.
They dont present a job half done, only to then proudly announce they will doodle in paint like a slow 6 year old.

You want people to believe your hypothesis that the rng is rigged right?? Because thats the whole point of your existence right now
You also know that when you multitable you will easily win even if you play bad because the site likes that.
So whats stopping you?? 1+1=2. Go multitable, win money and finish your investigation by proving that part you have spent 0 seconds on.
Also a big bonus, you finnaly end your (minimum) 6 year losing streak !!

PS: You want people who read your investigation (when its done!!) to believe you right?? Then you might want to change this:
Your bio still says you play "Holdem MTT 10$-100$, heads up, LH cash"
As we can see from your last 6 years you've played some 10nl.... very poorly. And your avg stake is 0.43, quite different from that $100 LOLOL

You might want to change your bio soon otherwise anybody will immediately see that you are a LIAR

Honestly if you still argue GG poker isnt rigged you are slow.... tonight i played for the first time in a month and lost like 20/25 all ins and got it in overpair vs underpair and lost about 5 times in a row...... once again my deepest run i make i have queens and hit a set and top stack has aj (a gut shot) and shoves triple pot and hits the ten on river for the straight..... in a 100 dollar buy in... cost me a few thousand.... somehow playing against non stop fish i lost about 12 buy ins.

This is insanity... how can i have a doomswitch today again... even after trying to take a break... the scam never ends their is no argument anymore.

To be fair, I'm surprised how many comments are done regarding GG. In "Poker bad beats and variance" thread also.

Look, this is what I'm trying to share. The software puts everyone on it's ROI and strictly controls it by dealing of positive/negative situations, man.

Yes, I didn't manage to beat 0.2$ limit (rofl), while I managed to beat 1$ limit on iPoker. Because there are too many newcomers of the room on 0.2$ (you can ignore the limit value, everything works the same way on higher limits). Yes, instead of crushing them, you will meet cool handies. If you try to fold in time, like I did - the softare will start to deal AJ+ ; TT+ for one of players on the table every hand (in stead of 40%-50%) - to guarantee a win (+EV, to be exact) of another player.

This is how I lost on iPoker. (Though, I provoked the software to do it, the aim was to prove rigging.)

And, man, it's impossible to prove, unless you open players hands. You can't prove they got huge hands every second/third hand, in case you don't see it after the hand ended.
Otherwise - you call and lose the whole stack.

Please show us this so we know it happened just like you said. GG has their own in-built tracker and you can download hh's so this should be easy. If you cannot provide for instance the losing 5 times in a row with an overpair we can only assume you made it up. Because thats what riggies do here all the time, making up bad beat stories and never ever showing the goods. Even though it would take a minute.

Good players like you? LOL. Maybe you should change your style of play into that of a fish because that way you would win right? sounds like the easiest place to make money🙂

You do know its by far the biggest site right now yea? So how could you be surprised?
Also, have you even played a decent amount on GG?
I know you've been testing out the micros at iPoker for the last 6 year but no data on any other site whatsoever... 0%. All output is completely based on ~900 hands and ~41 flops on iPoker.
But you always claim stars, gg etc are rigged exactly the same way??
How would you know without testing and why isnt it shown anywhere in your files?
Another huge part of the investigation missing and Johnny showing no effort to work on it.
That is why he WAS an analyst, obviously couldnt deliver there as well.

Yes, Slugant, I have only shown stats of iPoker.
And I just discuss the situation with guys. But the fact that GG is a huge room, causes bigger number of accusations, agree with your here.

Since I know how 3 different rooms work, I just guess that many others use similar software algorithms. But it's better if guys check this on their own, since I haven't ever played in GG, exactly.

Look, I still remember this comment of Lil Larusso -

And now watch my comment to ICS -
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...

"Look, I almost don't play nowadays. And the first time I get involved in the situation, where 2 of 4 players are "sitting out" -"

"Devid and SideChic - are sitting out with small stacks. 3 places paid. I'm the first with a huge stack. Tommi boi - is the 2nd."

Just the same circumstances on a buble.

Now check my comment here on a long post -
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...

The same stuff again.

This MTT tracked by me for Gipsy Team and for 2+2 forums is a pure exhibition of online poker gaming process. Just reading this post is enough to understand the most important details.

I suppose all the rooms work according to the same "logic" of rigging the gaming process.

If you read my posts attentively, you will get understanding how the whole sphere works (once again, all this was based on Pokerstars software algorithm, but I decided to upload iPoker due to its sighnificant and critical statistical violations)

Guess it's a miracle that it took so long for some idiot like John to come in here and try the "Gish Gallop" on rigged online poker. Just drown them in completely useless """information""" and keep screaming that you have proven the extreme riggedness.

Imagine being this guy, either if he's a troll or not.

You played one session for the first time in a month and ran bad, and that's proof the game is rigged?

by Johnmir m

"Look, I almost don't play nowadays. And the first time I get involved in the situation, where 2 of 4 players are "sitting out" -"

"Devid and SideChic - are sitting out with small stacks. 3 places paid. I'm the first with a huge stack. Tommi boi - is the 2nd."

Just the same circumstances on a buble.

You shoved for 12x pot on the flop, and that's proof the game is rigged?

You got KQo against 55 90BB deep, and that's proof the game is rigged?

(Also, geez, this is from April? How long have you been at this?)

What I'd really like to see from some of these "rigged" posters is something complete. An entire hand history. An unedited video of an hour of play. Something like that. Show us every hand and let us see how you play, not just cherry-picked screenshots or half-remembered sessions.

You only have stats on ipoker but KNOW how the other sites work?? bullshit
In your entire research there is 0.00% about other sites. Last hand on stars over 6 years ago and never a hand seen on gg or coin. Yet you speak about these sites.
ALL data reflect 900 hands or 41 flops on only iPoker and no other site.

Johnny I knew you were never a top analyst but this is ridiculous low level stuff.
You are basing the fact that GG is rigged on 1 comment of a spewtard complaining about 1 losing session after a month without playing.
And thats all it is, a comment. No data or hand histories whatsoever.
Do you believe just any tale people tell you without proof, is that why you support Putin?
In that case let me tell you a tale to end this discussion: I just played a session of a trillion hands... everything especially according to expected. Everyone ran close to ev, no weird things at all!!!
Poker must be fair then, you just heard a story about a trillion fair hands in a row !!!!

He claims he plays poker since 2006 and quickly knew it was rigged. Kept on playing though... and losing 😃😃
Btw, he told us 3 months ago he made his last about the subject but having a backbone is not his strong point (come to think of it, what is??:smirk)

LOLOL, fun fact. Here he is just talking about iPoker. It came all out of nowhere that he applied the same thought on other sites without testing them out.

Very amateur level analyst stuff. In fact, not even deserving of the word analyst at all.

Something complete?? It would be amazing if they would show anything at all, its all just made up stories
All those guys who told provable stories never ever even showed a hand history.
Even though the same guy was winning every pot for 2 hours!!
And the same guy was winning each <20%!!
And there were AVALANCHES of 4 outers !!
Yet we havent even seen 1% of this. Its clear bullshit.

John puts in effort but the wrong one, because he knows his story is bullshit too.
John's whole theory is: When you play good poker but not according to the sites hidden rules you will lose. Yet if you play bad poker but according to the hidden rulles you will win.
(I guess thats how a fish like Linus gets to be a pro)

John has perfectly shown that it is possible to lose. At least 6 years in a row. In the softest and lowest stakes he cant win. Well proven you are able to lose John 😀

But he shows no interest in showing the other side. Even though every pro in his humble opinion is a bad player and he knows much more about poker.
So if he just followed the rules he knows so well he would clean house.
But he doesnt, why???
Is it because it would take effort?? Probably not because he spend enormous amount of times on excel sheets and claims he had been testing out the hidden rules for 6 years now!!! Yet spending even a month winning while multitabling is too much effort???
Again why???
Because even Johnny knows that he is wrong.
If he had the balls or backbone to stand behind his words he would show him playing according to the sites rules and suddenly winning.
But he knows he wont win because he sucks at poker.
He has a big mouth but dodged every challenge because he sucks at poker.
He claims he is certain about his algorithm but when you ask him to test it and put a bet on it he chickens out.. Again!

John, you are a chicken weasel and even you know your claims are made up. In every aspect you refuse to stand behind your ideas.
You've been losing straight for 6 years and have a bankroll of $13... Why wouldnt you take a bet on something you are 100% certain about??? Because in reality you know its all lies. How are you going to convince other when you cant even convince yourself to attach consequences to your "proven claims".
Prove iPoker works this way by winning there!
Prove other work the same way by winning there!
Show you believe in your investigation by dont chickening out when someone wants to disprove something you have "proven 100%"
If you cant or refuse you have no reason to call yourself an analyst, not even an amateur level one, and you simply have no reason for being here
For once in your lifetime, dont pussy out John!

PS: You want people who read your investigation (when its done!!) to believe you right?? Then you might want to change this:
Your bio still says you play "Holdem MTT 10$-100$, heads up, LH cash"
As we can see from your last 6 years you've played some 10nl.... very poorly. And your avg stake is 0.43, quite different from that $100 LOLOL

You might want to change your bio soon otherwise anybody will immediately see that you are a LIAR

Do you remember some world’s famous criminals? I do.

Do you remember people, who arrested them? Or who managed to escape and share the information with a police? I don’t.

I mean, I haven’t got any motivation to scream about this, since it won’t give me anything.
More than that, I have to keep participating in this shame, because Gambling supervisors aren’t doing anything to stop the fraud. So, I have to keep listening to insults of pretty wild, silly people to make others job and to share the information as well, as it is possible.

I’m just sad to lose all the time I wasted for this scam, but not to lead this to the end/stage at the same time. That is why I still keep participating. I’m rather fed up with this, but I have to “invest” some more energy.

Nath, no, it is not a proof of rigging. It’s just an illustration of rare ingame situations, so that other players could pay more attention to this in their games.

It could be interesting. But are you sure, it fits to this thread?

Will it prove out-law moves of the rooms? How?

For example, I could provide a good gaming level, but it’s simply senseless to discuss this here.

And, by the way, you didn’t see the whole comment of me regarding this –

“Do you know why I push my hand? It looks totally irrational.

Because I don't "think", I simply know, that in case he got a better spade card, he will get his flush. So I just try to take the pot. But he has already got a better flush.

And this hand is not some "unlucky" stuff from 1 million hands. It's a concrete hand in a specific moment of the game.

It's not a talk about statistics, but still a beautiful illustration of what is going on.”

In other words – it’s a push/fold situation online. Postflop is not going according to natural chances. It’s literally proved –
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...

The software decides, if you or your opponent wins the pot, depending on the ICM situation on the table. That’s all. It’s not a poker game, man.

Slugant ))
I have got stats for Pokerstars and Partypoker too.
But when I talk about these sites I just share my opinion. Is it based on numbers? Well, everyone decides himself according to his intuition and to his real life experience.

Well, I just see similar comments of guys regarding “logic” of situations, when (on which tournament stage) and how it happens.

To be fair, I don’t like this much, and I think I should stay on your position here. Personally, I don’t understand why the *u** guys don’t show ANYTHING here.
I agree, yes, I’m starting to think, that I probably take into account some “unconfirmed” data.

I’m not sure, I said that I support him? )

I tested only Pokerstars and iPoker.
On Partypoker – I just played and gathered statistics which proved rigging with a chance of 99.98%.

That is why I won there, because I didn’t test the game, I played “normal” poker there.

I also won on Pokerstars in 2018+ (I haven’t got a full data about earlier times…). But I went down to micros there to check what is going on, what will happen, if I start to play according to the software algorithms. And lost 1.5$ limit also (was fun to lose 43 SnG tournaments on micros!! In a row due to 20 of 21 buble all-ins loss 🍰)

In fact, we don’t know if they were made up, but, to be fair, yes, a lot of guys don’t provide any data/materials. Not good...

So, I have got a question to TheWaddy (if he controls the chat and see this) –

Waddy, look, this info could be really useful. And it could be also sent to the UK Gambling Commission.

You can even mention my messages in your petition to them (since I also provided materials regarding rigging of the game).

Are you going to use it? Will you spend some time to prepare a report?

It’s not actually easy, but just asking, if you plan to do something? Could be a good contribution to the aim of fighting against the fraud in online-poker. Seriously.

😃

Man, I have already answered you in another thread!
Yes, it’s a good idea. It could be interesting.

But it’s a lifetime, I better go offline and prove, that 100%+ ROI is absolutely normal on some decent offline limit.

Even if I was a weasel my sunglasses are always on, man

😃

Should I put a “retired” badge under the nickname, lol?

Imagine being this guy, either if he's a troll or not.

And John, if you think right now spending time multitabling and winning at online poker is a waste and a "lifetime"
Do you think you have spent the last 6 years, losing at the lowest stakes or in your words "testing the software", wisely?

Especially considering you are not even half-way your investigation and you are basically giving it up?
Also, if you want to investigate/prove how the rng works... why did you spend 6 years playing the losing strategy and zero years playing a winning strategy???

Do all the top analysts work this way?? 🙂 😃