1/2 AA on a draw-heavy flop.

Definitely not an easy call or a snap anything. I probably crying call based on talkative Asian stereotyping. Hard to believe a call here isn’t +EV.

gross. 3 ways i think im ok just folding this, giving him credit for QJ or 44. if you see him punting later that changes things.

you’re a nitty old man.

I’m pretty sure OP we play in the same general area (New England). What room was this at, based on certain places player pools this could be a sigh fold or a sigh call.

Which card were the hearts would also help.

Honestly this is either pair plus flush draw or a massive draw imo. I’m prob not good enough to fold as played.

Cry sigh snap who cares. Why would he play value like this?

QJ and 44 are the only better value hands that makes sense, while there are numerous bluffs and lessor value hands he could be shoving with.

He has a lot of combo draws and a few better hands. I fold this spot not getting a great price.

You have black Aces which unblock his nut-flush draws. You also block some straight outs if he has KQ. It's reasonable to assume he fits the type who fastplays combos such as KhTh. The downside is that it's such a large shove, meaning you need 45% equity. While QJ doesn't have to shove for protection, often players who are wide might have J2s or Q2s as well, which are a little more vulnerable. If the Q isn't a heart he has some hands like QhTh but these still have around 50% v AA. As a starting point, if you think he'd do this with any nut-flush draw you should call (and it's important to consider whether he has every nut flush draw in his range).

This is usually a pretty easy spot with any decent read on the player. With zero reads besides talkative asian guy, and just given the fact the most players who open shove like this are donks, I'm calling here.

I call.

Since you have black Aces here, I think this is a rather trivial call. He can have so many various draws here, whether they are combo-draws or just naked flush draws.

But would definitely help to know which of the cards on the flop that was not a heart, so that we can see exactly which combos are available.

Regardless, I don't think we can fold this AA-combo. We just have to resign ourselves to the fact that sometimes he will play QJ or similar in a weird way, but even against that we have some outs.

Gate City in Nashua.

Anyway, I snap called. I figured if he had a set or two pair, He'd raise smaller for value. It felt like he had to be on a draw and didn't want to give himself a difficult decision on a blank turn.

I forget which two cards were hearts. My recollection is they were the Queen and Jack, but I'm not totally sure.

He was on a 100% stone bluff. Something like 68 with no hearts.

Im glad that the V had nothing OP - Usually Gate City is nit central imo - atleast until 6pm.

I saw a post 10+ years ago from some grinder who said when you want to model your equity in Equilab or whatever, you should throw in a couple of absolute nonsense hands because you never know what people will show up with. There might be something there when dealing with zero reads plus broad starting ranges.

Wait...he just insta-shoves $240 over a $20 c-bet into a $30 pot???

I dunno. That's a pretty gross spot, on this board texture. With so many draws possible, I probably sigh-call, but I wouldn't love it, and I wouldn't be shocked if V gets there with some combo that was 1P + a FD on the flop.

I'm confused. Were we supposed to deduce something relevant about his range from "he likes to talk"?

If someone sits down at a table and is already talking non-stop, I think it says something about you if you can't make any reads from that.

Actually, what he said is it's obvious already he likes to talk, not "he's talking non-stop and clearly coked out of his mind."

I guess I was a shitty psychologist IRL, because I can't make any RELIABLE reads from this second hand observation.

Maybe give your opinions on this, Einstein.

Is he overly sociable? ADHD? Manic? On speed? How do any of these translate to what his range will be for limping, calling and raising?

What does it say about me?

I'm supposed to know that if someone is talking a lot, they're likely to over-bet bluff jam with air? I guess I'm just dumb for not knowing that.

I'm fairly observant of my opponents, and I've yet to notice a strong correlation between how much someone talks and how often they'll attempt an insane zero equity bluff. If anything, I've noticed the players who draw the most attention to themselves tend to play the tightest, and bluff the least.

My opinion from playing live cash over 20 years is that someone who sits down and is immediately talking a lot definitely is correlated with being a recreational player. And in conjunction with open shoving right away, I think you can make a decent read with those two things combined.

I’m surprised you guys think the talking thing isnt a relevant data point

So this low limit gabber is a rec player, you say...LOL. You have a 90% chance of being correct about that, based solely on population stats.

Another LOL at thinking that proclaiming you've been playing poker for !!!20 years!!! is supposed to impress anyone here.

And you're still too cowardly to actually say what the read is supposed to be.

Go home and get your shine box.