Quick x/r spot - too thin? Or standard gii?

Against a basic TAG, this feels like FPS.

Just bet the flop. Why do you assume he'll either stab at the flop or call the checkraise?

PRE - seems fine.

FLOP - don't hate the check-raise line,. especially when V stabs for a small size. Wouldn't hate just going bet bet bet with TPTK on this board. Both seem fine.

TURN - the jam seems fine as played.

with your image seems standard

this flop usually misses you so checking seems fine. i wouldnt hate a c/c either to let him barrel something. depends what he thinks of you. if he has a J he has to feel comfortable if you only c/c this flop.

Result:

If you went bet bet bet you'd still lose. Not much you can do when V tales this line pre with KK. Shake it off, reload, and grind on.

Would you refresh this V profile after this hand? I feel some disconnect.

yeah, that's a nice flat by him pre and again on the flop

re the check raise, tbh it tightens/strengthens his continuing range far more than a c bet, turn barrel does. maybe to the point where the turn shove becomes dicey?

against a decent villain, it should get rid of most/all of the Jx that we dominate, so what are we left with...non believing pocket pairs and Jacks and then some flush draws for sure but we have the Ah so there's a lot less of them

maybe I'm skewed by the results, but what calls the check raise that we dominate...maybe he can have KQhh, K10hh, Q10hh, maybe some smaller connected HH hands? and maybe KJ QJ hands that put us on a draw?

What hands can Villain have that beat us??? JJ?55?99? 5x???
Can you really put villain on QQ+ opening/calling the 3bet preflop??? No.
We are at the top of our range. It's called a cooler imho.
Unless he got a better reads on villain, ie. villain folds to 3bets unless it's QQ+/AK+ etc.
Once we 3bet, we are getting our money in anyways. Can you really fault him for 3betting preflop?? No, hence it's a cooler.

I should include - this guy has seen me take some massive bluffing lines and generally doesnt credit me with having much. He calls down here with every J in his range (not sure how wide he defends pre)

In the OP you say:

"V - Fairly straightforward tighter ABC for profit player. Hit-Bet-Print type player. Not overly creative. Somewhat passive and doesn't like to make big bluffs. Understands ranges, reading boards, etc. Covers. BTN."

Now you're saying, after the reveal:

"I should include - this guy has seen me take some massive bluffing lines and generally doesnt credit me with having much. He calls down here with every J in his range (not sure how wide he defends pre)"

It's almost as if the Villain in your OP is different from the one who played the actual hand. It's not a case of some additional info about Villain but of Villain now being a different type (e.g. ABC's don't flat 3bets on the BN with KK and bluff-catch relatively light).

The takeaway here should be how V played his hand. Make a mental note of it. If this situation comes up in the future, he'll pay you off when you have AA or JJ here, but we don't want to over-play TPTK when he can show up with some over-pairs.

If you're correct that he calls with every JX in his range, that's great, but we should still be careful about not targeting too narrow a range or over-playing TP. He can't have very much JX in his range when we know where half the J's in the deck are.

Yeah, agree. Not many opponents at these stakes can resist putting in the 4B with AA/KK. Even among those who have the discipline to flat pre, a fair number are going to bet larger on the flop, or jam over the x/r. Credit to V for playing his hand the way he did. He got max value.

Didn't quite grunch this so I know results; not sure if that is influencing me or not.

I mean, I certainly get our 3bet preflop, and it's probably the "correct" thing to do. But overall, we're not making our money from this guy. Do we really have to put ourselves into a high variance spot right here, OOP against a for-profit player, all for fighting over his $10 open? So with that in mind, I'd actually prefer a flat and play a small pot OOP... or even just a nitty fold and move on to next hand.

Any thoughts about what types of hands he is continuing with preflop to $45? I mean, he's releasing all his cheesey T8s, right? Should we be alarmed at this call?

Think I would mostly just bet small on the flop to protect against a couple of random overs. With us having the Ah there ain't a lotta flush draws in his range. Against this guy, doesn't a check/raise very quickly narrow his range to better if he continues on the flop? Whereas he can easily continue with worse facing a small bet.

By the turn I think we're just forced to lie in the bed we've made. ETA: If this guy really sees us as often being FOS (seems reasonable given Banana HHs) and will often call down with any Jx, then might be fine at this point.

Can argue this is a bit of a cooler, especially since SPR is < 5 on the flop (and it will be very difficult to fold TPTK at any point). But can also argue we don't have to take the line we did postflop, and can also perhaps argue we can just avoid spots like this preflop.

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Please never change...this is adorable

Be that as it may, we could easily have a running thread here titled "Problem Spot with AJo". Anecdotally, this hand has lost people ITF a lot of money over the years. It would be very enlightening to see if someone has an actual database that could confirm/refute this hypothesis.

Put me down as a +1 at the "AJo is a trouble hand" table.

I love AJo. Can dump it, pump it, or just smooth call IP. Very flexible hand where you never really made a bad move because everything's on the table

Folding preflop would be so egregiously bad I don't know where to start. Hand is a cooler as played. Probably a cooler no matter what.

GG should change his sig to "i fold"

that said i got in trouble with AJo because i defaulted to assuming a shortstack 50 bb button raise with was a steal so i 3b jammed in the big blind figuring if i 3b 4x i was committed anyway. dude had AA. oops.

at 1/3 maybe i should default to assuming people are too passive to steal so they open limp the button with hands they should be stealing with? idk.