The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Do you really not get that the "positive" ones are mocking you? Or do you really believe they are comparing you to a great philosopher and warriors of the inquistion?
You cant be that stupid and conceited right?? Well, actually... since its you it might be the case

If you think they are for a decent part positive why dont you share a few that you think are not being ironic?
And how do you explain your -648 rating then?? Thats a lot of downvotes
Literally nobody there or here is taking you serious and all agree that you are a fish at poker.

Actually, both here and on gypsy people are calling oud a fraudster

And his name is Johnmir

You are frauding by continuously lying about your own poker persona.
And you have done 0% to rectify it till this day.
Everyone is calling you out on your blatant lies but you just carry on with them.
That says everything someone needs to know about your disingenuous character.
Why do you still claim you play $100 sng's for instance?? You're a (almost) 50 year old man lying about this poker results... to what end Johnny? Nobody is falling for it

Yet you played a "rigged game" for 6 years... why??
10k hands at 10nl with a whopping -25bb/100 lossrate
7k tournaments at 43 cents average stake with a negative ROI
99% of people wont find this interesting and would rather do something else
But you actually did it

We know your theory by now. If you play according to site rules you win, if not you lose.
You've done the losing part to the exteme Johnny, well done 🙂
Now you should prove the other side of the coin..
But you refuse.
Now why would that be... You care so much about fairness why wont you spend some time covering this ground? You've spent 6 years losing at micros, so time was not your enemy.
Your own shortcomings were, and they will continue to be so.

According to the mined screenshots you've lost over $300 in 6 years John. Everyone can see it, I always enjoy posting them again if you like 😀
Its not much...
But its not really expert level is it :p

6 years of a wasted life back??
If you however decide to play the rigged game according to the sites hidden rules what you would get is a research actually done.
Since you care about fairness and you like to see yourself as a top analyst there is no other way.

The guy who claimed to have taken statistics and then claimed for a decade or more that you need huge sample sizes to determine probable outcome, claims others are lying the most. 🙄

Welcome back amaz, again a very well substantiated post from you :p

First of all, are you defending Johnmir for playing (and losing hard) at micro games but narrating that he plays $100 sng's?
Are these OK lies to you as well??? It is a russian thing or something that this is thought of as normal behaviour?

And of course you need a sample size big enough to determine an outcome cannot be contributed to variance but to something wrong/rigged with the RNG, how can you not understand this?
You have yet to deliver that data, im sure you will never to be honest.
You did provide a screenshot of all your losing hands to show how bad you are running, thanks for that, it gave everybody a good laugh.
But you must know by now your data has been posted by TD in the maths forum. Everyone there disagreed with you and made fun of you.
You must be eager to chime in there and shine your analytic light on the whole mess, maybe you could tell other math guys what did they all did wrong since you must be right🙂

And since you are back you never answered some questions about your previous babbling about the huge difference between all-in ev and all-in adj.. which you used interchangeably as well might I add. So here it is again, Im looking forward to your detailed response lolol

It seems so trivial but you are the one making a big point of that I said ev-line one day and all-in adj line the other day. Its because they reference the exact same thing.
It seems even more trivial, or in fact downright wrong, because you did the same thing.
You showed a graph of your ev-line and said "look at my all-in adj line, its hovering around zero". You were clearly talking about your ev line, so if they are interchangeable or synonyms to you, why do you get so mad when its also the same for someone else??

And since you seem to hung up on me calling the ev-line an all-in adj line, then why wouldnt you answer this. Its not just relevant to the discussion, its the heart of the discussion.
What is the big difference between the ev-line and all-in adj line? (and remember you showed an evline and said it was an all-in adj line after all its shown in the screenshot above)
And if the all-in adj doesnt mean its based on the expected value of the all-ins, what is this line based on in your view?
Furthermore you said by claim about all-in adj was exposed as BS and/or proven wrong??? Why didnt you add this quote then?? It would be super easy and you've finally won an argument. I said you were the one calling the ev-line the all-in adj line and I added a quote of you saying it, why dont you ever show the quote? I dont feel the need to make quotes up out of thin air, why do you?

PS: please join in the math forums, those guys deserve to laugh as well
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25/pr... 😉

In something with as much and as many forms of variance as poker you absolutely do need huge sample sizes. Where's the lie?

I am reading the gypsy team thread now.

Johnmir actually speaks a bit about strategy in that thread. its no wonder he absolutely refuses to discuss this here because it is hilarious.

It starts in this post in which he explains how to play 25 suited from the button against a raise and a call.

https://forum.gipsyteam.ru/index.php?vie...

John's downvoting on gypsy is going fast, already on -748
They must really dislike him :p

I like this quote about him, he actually flood the flood chat haha

"So the author was even banned in the flood chat for flooding. He generated an endless stream of fierce heresy and madness around the clock"

No you don't. That's the whole purpose of statistics.

Great explanation again :p

By now it is clear you lost money because you dont understand things and not because of some rigged madness

If I showed you 100 hands where you were losing, does that say everything?
If I showed you 1 hand of you losing, would that say everything?
In your logic it wont matter since sample size is irrelevant and both statistics say you are losing.
Do you really not understand that bigger samples show a more truthful outcome than shorter samples??? Where in your beloved textbook or chatgpt did it say that?🙂

Edit:
You also read over a bunch of questions somehow and by some stroke of bad luck you forgot to read the maths forum thread AGAIN
They all say you are wrong but since you are so sure of yourself you must be eager to set the record straight
And please give them some more quotes like "No you don't. That's the whole purpose of statistics", these guys need to laugh too.

I wanted to laugh so I read some the top rated posts of John's Gypsy thread

Reading that makes me think we are going easy on him, they are actually a lot harsher to him :p

They really love and respect and Johnny, you must believe!!
They call him everything: incompetent, schizo, empty space, mentally ill, scammer, multiple diagnoses and manic...All out of admiration of course 😃😃

And somehow these guys have very good ratings there while poor Johnny is on -745 :p

Nothing you have posted in this thread makes me think you understand poker variance or statistics to the point that I should take "because I said so" as an acceptable explanation from you.

But he did show a screenshot of a textbook once!!! Doesnt that make him a top expert? 🙂

I think amaz is confused about a lot of things and statistics is definitely one of them.
He thinks the purpose of statistics is using small sample sizes somehow.
The purpose of statistics is in fact to use large (i.e. reliable) datasets and show a concise conclusion, not the other way around.

In the past amaz has shown tremenous faith in AI. Until AI claimed poker wasnt rigged of course, than it was overlooked. But for fun I asked AI what the purpose of statistics indeed is:

That Slugant! Online poker has been exposed for being corrupt many times and yet he spends all day online defending it.

He's either a paid shill or he's not. Guess what I think! 😃

what does exposed for being corrupt even mean?

So you are also unable to beat poker Laruso?

Must be a bitch and a half when one is too dumb to beat poker and to arrogant to admit it.

LL has never delivered any evidence or data, only crying about his poor results.

He "knows" GG is rigged yet keeps playing (and losing) there :p

Just a lol snippet of his superior brain

One week ago

He is very good obv but keeps losing to ultrafish :p

This was in April, when he couldnt anymore... apparently he did find the strength to lose even more

Actually LL, when all you do is lose dropping down in stakes is quite a good idea. Stopping altogether would be even better though 😉

But I will give you a chance to earn something back.
Lets play HU, 10k hands at 500nl. We dont have to play that awful rigged GG that you somehow keep playing.
I know you had a huge losing streak but with your ability and your confidence ("i played better than anyone could possibly play yesterday" & "very good players like me") surely you wont turn down a HU challenge against a mentally handicapped person would you? 😀

Guys, yes, I haven't managed to answer messages of Slugant and DJ yet, even though I have copy-pasted the messages to ms word and keep it on my desktop ))

It suddenly appeared that tennis is not as rigged as online poker, so I had to pay more attention to my job (coaching) 😃

LL, in fact, I think, it's simply obvious now, which "side" Slugant does represent. I just don't name it not to frighten forum members, lol. But it's a pure fun. Can't believe the situation went that far. And after all this, guys, you say that Russia is a wild country... lol. Funny to hear that, after comparing the Russian and 2+2 poker forums. (Guys, I'm more an "international thinker", in my opinion politics has nothing in common with real people of different nations, which you can meet by luck in a real life.)

In fact, I'm back for some "meaningful" message

Guys, I think it’s important to do one more try to share with you, how online poker rooms work, how exactly they deal hands.

Pay attention to that since at least Pokerstars and iPoker work like that, it’s very probable, that your sites – GG, WPT Gold, Coin and others work very similar way. So, I suggest you to take a look at the following info in case you don't wanna be misleaded and don't wanna live in old and fake world. Yes, technologies are improving, and this is a normal stuff nowadays.

And you can test this (just by watching attentively, by observing, without changing your playing style) in 1-2 hours of playing. Especially on cash and SnG tournaments.

Let’s discuss a push/fold stage (buble or the final table) of SnG/MT tournaments and Cash gaming separately.

Push/fold stage of SnG or MTT

Guys, let’s concentrate on a preflop starting hands, which you get from the room’s software. I will just ignore the flop stage at the moment. So that you could understand the main logic of how the hands are dealt on iPoker and Pokerstars. I intentionally almost exclude any screenshots, so, you could concentrate on the sequence of hands, dealt by the software.

Good hands, which you should push, because they are the best on the table, I will mark with green color. And bad hands, which are a provocation of the software to reduce your EV (efficiency of your decisions), so you will meet a better hand of one of your opponents, I will mark with red.

[push-fold stage of a tournament started, you have got 10-20BB stack]

99 - you push (let's say, you can push this hand, in case an "aggression level" of the software is not that high - you didn't win several tournaments in a row before this / you haven't withdrawn money / you don't play vs too many newcomers of the room on the table)

42 - J4 - 64 - Q4 - Q5 - 84 (the software deals you some weak hands, you fold it)

A5 - and now you get this hand, but you just pushed 99 before - your stack increased. So, software expects you to push this A5
KQ - and one more provocation, since the hand came just in a row right after the A5, the software is waiting for you to reduce your EV, so, your overall result in the tournament will never exceed 30%-50% ROI

96 - some garbage hand comes, you skip it

A5 - and now this is a sure push. Your position is not even important, even if it's UTG

(it's an example of such push from the video for Gipsy Team forum)

75 - K2 - two more weak hands to skip

A9 - and this is a sure fold now, the software expects you to push this hand after you pushed that A5

J4 - 93 - J9 - 85 - 73 - J8 - and you keep skipping weak hands again

93 - but according to the table dynamics you decide to push a garbage hand from "button"

KJ - you immidiately got a good push-fold hand, but it's a fold. You just increased your stack with a garbage hand, and the software tries to provoke you for an unprofitable all-in (the aim of the software to always generate positive/negative ingame situations "one by one" to limit your ROI, never more then 30%-50%)

J3 - 84 - you keep folding weak hands and wait for the next good hand, which you can 100% push, because you "skipped" the software provokation on KJ

AT - sure push

J5 - garbage hand comes

88 - it depends on your 88-KK range prehistory, these hands are "trapped" by the software rythmically. So, if you have already pushed 7-9 hands of this type in a row - successfully - there is a high chance that you should fold now. But, let's say, you can go for this push. But the next good push-fold hand must be 100% folded

KJ - it's a sure fold, since the software expects you to push your hand, right after that 88 push to reduce your gaming efficiency (good decision -> generating of a "bad" ingame situation by the software)

83 - 84 - 72 - you skip weak hands

A3 - and now again, you can push. You just skipped the software's provocation on KJ, so, this hand is "clean".

You can see, that this algorithm of dealing is disguised by dealing garbage hands.

And, these hands – “green” and “red” - are always different. AJ / 88 / KJ / A3s / 55

That is why it’s really hard to notice, that the software just deals “bad” and “good” situations in some order. So, the key logic to notice, that the game is predictable and is totally controlled by the software, is to understand – that it just deals “positive” strong hand, then one/two “negative” strong hands. Yes, the hands are different, but they are dealt with predictable “waves” of luck/bad luck.

Once again, guys, if you wanna see, how it works in a real game, just import a gaming history of about 100 SnG tournaments, where I play VS software of the room. Nickname is “Johnmir”.

And you will get simply sure, that the game is predictable. Since it's impossible to "guess" hands and push "correctly" again and again without no mistakes hundreds of pushes -

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MQJooyc...

Other players on the table often show me their hands, and you will see, that I push or fold right in time on a huge push/fold distance. You will understand why and in which order I play my hands on a push-fold.

But I don't see any problem to check it yourself in real games in your poker-rooms.

Just a comment, so you could check this in a real game.

Software is changing an "aggression level". If you just won several tournaments (reached prizes), the sequence of hands will be more "dangerous", it will look like -

99 - 42 - J4 - 64 - Q4 - Q5 - 84 - A5 - KQ - 96 - A5 - 75 - K2 - A9 - J4 - 93 - J9 - 85 - 73 - J8 - 93 - KJ - J3 - 84 - AT - J5 - 88 - KJ - 83 - 84 - 72 - A3 - 54 - A5

Do you see the difference?

If you are facing a downstreak - you have to skip 2-3 A2-KJ-like hands, instead of 1-2 hands. And push only each 3rd or 4th "good" push-fold hand. That's all.

Guys, once again, you can keep refusing to believe that, ignoring any info about the software. But don't be surprised you can't make it to the final table again and again. I mean, I'm not insisting, if you wanna keep trying to beat the "fake" poker gaming, no problem, it's your choice.

I share it with you, because once you understand that the softare constantly and immediately "eliminates" your positive decisions by generating of negative (for you) situations - you will finally realize, what is really going on in online-poker and make a reasonable (not blindly) decision for yourself, if you should keep participating/earn money for living/anything. But you will be aware (!). You will stop "living in a fake world". Lol, it's 2025 already, wake up...

Cash gaming

I will give you more pictures here, from a real session, which I played for Red Star Poker room's official chat. So that, you will understand how software dealing of the room goes, in case we connect preflop dealing and posflop situations.

Just few examples, and, I hope, you will get the idea.

So, I just joined a table. And got a very provitable all-in. My opponent calls me on the turn and I play 95% equity hand.

Now, look, what is going on next -

I understand, that after such a huge and profitable pot, the software will try to "equalize" my Winrate. To reduce it to a minimal level. So, I just fold next "dangerous" situations on good hands.

But I do understand, that I can play garbage at the same time. Because the software is designed to generate "Top pair vs Two pairs" / "Two pairs vs Trips" / "JJ vs TT" situations. And when I haven't got anything in hand a chance to meet something strong is seriously lower. I can just steal this pot -

Do you understand the logic?

And look the next hand. How it is generated by the software?

A guy behind me got KJ of the same suit (diamonds). Why?

I just played 52s. The software expects me to join the game on 83s - it's "the same class" hand. And in case I join the flop - a chance to meet flush vs better flush (don't forget I just played two pairs vs two pairs weaker and got 95% equity all-in) is just huge. That is why I fold. I understand all this logic. I understand, that I just play vs an algorithm, who just records my stats and provoke me to give money back to players. So, noone of us on the table will ever win something, and all our money will "die" due to a commission.

Do you understand the last phrases? Or too hard?

And the software keeps trying to give my chips back to players -

I don't waste too much chips and fold, but I shouldn't have played this hand actually, just fold it. It's bad, that I decided to even watch the postflop.

And again, do you see?

I got a top pair, but, once again, I lose the pot. Because the software keeps decreasing my stack after that huge win of +100% buy-in (two pairs vs two pairs weaker)

And only now I manage to win a top pair. The wave of negative hands is over

Let's move a bit forward. It's the same session.

Let's watch how postflop can be connected to a preflop dealing by the software.

I keep playing, keep winning.

I understand, that the software calculates my (and every other player’s EV on the table) EV and generate hands right after several profitable decisions to involve into a negative game situation.

So -

Guys, just logically. Do you believe I fold this ATo by an "accident". Just misclicked? Lol.

Yes, after several profitable decisions I expect a negative one to come, since the software is designed to keep player's ROI/Winrate minimal. Without this algorithms implemented weak players start to lose too fast, stop playing. Strong players will withdraw all the money. The room will get a small commission for the game.

Conclusion

Guys, sorry, if it was complicated. I just try to find easiest ways to comment the logic - how they equalize players between each other to get all the money transferred into the commission for the game.

To be fair, I expect at least some level of progressive thinking from you. It is more then testable in a real game. And after all the discussions here on 2+2 and on Gipsy Team forum, it looks pretty obvious that almost all the rooms work according to a similar model.

Just come to the cheapest limit of cash games/tournaments, check it. Or pay attention to what is really going on limits, which you prefer to play. It will save your a huge time and nerves.
Guys, try to understand, that you can't seriously influence on the game results, since the software eliminates your positive desicions by immediate generating of negative situations.
I find this "slightly" important to understand for everyone, who participate in online gaming.

To haters ♥

Guys, while you are calling me "silly"/"idiot" etc. Think of the following -

It's not that easy to analyze and to uncover, what I describe here in the chat. But a special case, when you can't even understand something, that other people before you managed to uncover.

If I'm an idiot, who are you then? If you don't manage to understand a clean and understandable information, which was explained/commented in details.

To others

Guys, it's good, that people play online. And it is also nice, that some of you manage to win for living, while you participate in games. Why not!

But, in my opinion, the real rules should be announced. Real money are involved here. It's not a joke, pretty many people lose their life time cause of the scam. Other people, obviously, shouldn't suffer (!)

Guys, I think it’s important to do one more try to share with you, how johmir works, how exactly does he deal with things

He hasnt played "played seriously" for over 6 years yet he knows more about poker than peopel who have

He is -25bb/100 at 10nl and losing at 0.43 stake yet he is very expert

He keeps on claiming he is expert/professional level and says he plays $100 sng's. Even though everybody can see this is very far from the truth he keeps on lying.

Even though he is very keen on ethics, he keeps on with these lies. He somehow doesnt see a double standard in this.

He thinks he proved an easy way to win online, just comply with the hidden rules of the software which he knows!! Yet, he spent 6 years straight losing instead of using his algorithm knowledge to win. The losses btw, were all at microstakes.

He hasnt played stars in 6 years, only iPoker. We have never seen a hand from GG or coinpoker, yet he simply assumes they all work the same way... Very poor analyst stuff.

Even though he thinks complying with software hidden rules makes you a winner not one piece of evidence (literally 0%) of this can be found in his "investigation"
This is of course because if he tried to prove this, he needs to win. Which is something even he knows he cant accomplish.

Sometimes he claims he doesnt have the time to multitable but is here everyday with screenshots and long posts. Seems like poor time management from a poor analyst.

He claims on the gypsy forum they do respect him. When evidence is shown that they think he is a mental patient and he is one of the lowest ranked members he ignores the facts.

Even though he knows his algorithm and when to fold strong hands he keeps on losing. Makes one think he doesnt know the algorithm after all.
When asked to take a bet on this 99.999999% proven algorithm he declines.

He says he is against fraud in poker. Yet he himself keeps up his fraudulent behaviour. Calling himself an expert or a professional level player on multiple forums, youtube and when addressing gaming boards while according to ALL FACTS he is just a microstakes loser.

Even more fraudelent, when he makes a stream to prove his point but it backfires because he got everything wrong he deletes the stream and claims everything went well... Yeah sure

John is a very ethical persion according to himself but keeps on lying.
And when aksed tough questions he ignores them, therefore I'll just ask them again:

Even to this day in your 2+2 bio it says you play $100 sng's.
On your youtube video "how to play online poker according to the algorithm" your first sentence is "I'm an expert level poker player and..."
On 2+2, pokerstrategy, youtube & gypsy you claim you are an expert or professional level player...

1. Why dont you feel the need to rectify these statements which are BLATANT PROVEN LIES?
2. How are you so comfortable being disingenuous and lying about your credentials?
3. How can anyone trust someone who is so eager so keep on lying about himself without correcting it when its made clear to anybody else?
4. And honestly, how can you call out other people when you are the one shamelessly lying the most and never rectifying?

Answer these questions Johnny, show your true character (or lack thereof).
Dont be unethical and ignore them just to keep your lying charade going.

its now 100% proven how Johnmir operates, as a disingenuous liar without any attempt to rectify his lies. Yet he rather point the finger at others instead of taking a critical look at himself or his half-done investigation

That is Johnmir as a person, as far as Johnmir the poker player all you need to know is this:

No sight of $100 sng's
And literally 0.0% sight of any expertise whatsoever

CONCLUSION

Johnmir is a liar without any backbone or principles

Lil Larusso is either a good player or a huge fish

Guess what I think! 😃

You have even worse stats than Johnmir lolololol

And just a pro tip: 50/38/18.6 arent the numbers you should be aiming for at 6max
But that lossrate is just next level
Not to mention that tournament graph, its going down so smoothly
You must really know what you're talking about hahahah
😃😃😃😃😃

Hahahahahhha John are you okay?

the newest attempt at proing a rig with some pictures is the best yet.

how ever did you avoid the trap with 83 suited? such a powerful hand the fact someone else has higher diamonds isessentially the smoking gun. definitely rigged.

I have read some more of the gypsy thread.

I get why you avoid talking about actual strategy here.

You are much worse of a player than i had anticipated.

your defense of the call with 25 suited on the button was very funny.

I enjoyed your insights into heads up sngs even more though.

For people who havent read it someone posts a video of a 500 hyper turbo reg. The reg limps an ace 5 offsuit on the button.

John sees this and makes fun of it as he thinks its a terrible play.

John lets start discussing some hands here too. I love hearing fish talk strategy it always brings a smile to my face.

I wish I could say the same about your answers, but fun to see by this point you are not even defending your fraudulent behaviour, you just carry on with it.

You cant say at this moment the info is outdated./
When someone asks how old you are? Do you think its a fair answer to say you are 12 because you once where???
Last years avg stake 0.43, bio still says $100 sng's. You are an insane liar.

Also, your entire investigation is on ~900 hands and ~43 flops on iPoker. No single mention of partypoker or $100 stakes whatsoever. 0%.
Also 0% mention of stars, coin & gg. The latter two I dont think you ever played yet you make assumpions about.

All you need to do to finish your research is win at iPoker by complying with hidden rules. So go ahead.
You have proven the losing part perfectly for 6 years straight, we know that by now.
If you cant win, you must not know the hidden rules or you are just making them up.

By some weird coincidence, you again read over these questions. Please answer them with more than a 😃
People who read your research deserve to know what they are dealing with:

Even to this day in your 2+2 bio it says you play $100 sng's.
On your youtube video "how to play online poker according to the algorithm" your first sentence is "I'm an expert level poker player and..."
On 2+2, pokerstrategy, youtube & gypsy you claim you are an expert or professional level player...

1. Why dont you feel the need to rectify these statements which are BLATANT PROVEN LIES?
2. How are you so comfortable being disingenuous and lying about your credentials?
3. How can anyone trust someone who is so eager so keep on lying about himself without correcting it when its made clear to anybody else?
4. And honestly, how can you call out other people when you are the one shamelessly lying the most and never rectifying?

Answer these questions Johnny, show your true character (or lack thereof).
Dont be unethical and ignore them just to keep your lying charade going.

Can't you read? The software was provoking him to play it because he played the 52s.

Fortunately, being the pro player that he is, he bit his lip and managed to avoid losing the hand by folding the 83d. He even gave you the evidence that the player behind him had the KJd. (Maybe he missed noticing the 77 in front of him, that had open-raised, but we can obviously ignore that minor element when he has proved his point that the software is rigged against him by giving him hard-to-fold flushes that are behind higher flushes because he had previously played the 52d hand so well and won a huge pot on a hot flop.

Good grief! What more do you nay-sayers want? 😡

Yeah i just cant keep up with top level player and one of the top insurance analyst in the world (he calls himself that on the gypsy team forum).

Now thinking about it the 77 makes this even more rigged. The software is provoking him with suited cards. Which we all know are the best cards and they cover him from multiple angles. if he flops a pair with the 3 the pair of 7s has been set up to beat him if he flops the flush the KJ has him.

Trapped between a rock and a hard place.

Guys... You are moving on slowly without Mike. Thanks god, we have got him here!

It's just an example, how software reacts to decisions of players.

Yes, if I call on 52s, the software expects me to call on 83s the next hand. So, to provoke me to lose chips, it is logically right to put someone on the same suit hand but higher cards (KJs).

Guys, imagine Mike is a room owner.

I'm a weak player. Slugant is a good player (yes, it is probably totally different 😃 in real, but let's say it is like that).

Mike wants to maximize commission of the room for gaming. To reach this, he needs the game to last as long, as it needs to melt down our bankrols (mine and Slugant's bankrols) to a commission for the game.

How to make a better player - Slugant - committing mistakes?

If Mike just deals KK for Slugant vs AA for John on a regular basis - it will be too obvious for us, that the game is rigged.

The best way is to check, which hands Slugant plays. Then deal him one more hand of this type.

For example, Slugant goes all-in with 10 BB stack on ATo. How to provoke Slugant for a mistake -

After he pushed ATo, deal few garbage hands like 74, J2, Q4. And then, generate a hand AJo for Slugant. But this time, Mike will give me AQo. And Slugant will commit a "mistake". I will get my chips back. The game will be equal.

This is what the software aims, when it deals me 83s right after I played 52s.

Guys, If you are experienced poker players, you have to understand that?? How else will you equalize weak and good players?

You can argue, that this is happening on a regular basis. But the scheme itself looks pretty obvious. I suggest you to check this. That after you successfully (!) push A5o from button. Next A9o, that you got dealt should be folded. Lol. Very easy. Especially on a downstreak. That's all.

)))

DJ, how did you manage to find this in Gipsy Team chat, I only commented my postflop decision to bluff there. I didn't say anything about "correct/incorrect" preflop decision. I didn't defent the preflop call on 52s.

But speaking seriously. I hope, that guys here understand, that fold equity of players on a postflop changes according to the table dynamics. And in case I skipped 10-15 hands in a row / high rank combinations were dealt to players in the latest hands / etc - yes, I can join the flop, having almost any cards, since I will get 60-70% of such pots with a well-performed bluff. And this makes playing this 52s hand a highly profitable preflop decision.

I have already mentioned, that your hand's EV = EV preflop + EV postflop. And in case EV postflop of 52s hand is huge (at the moment!! Poker is not a game of separate hands, lol, every game got it's start and it's end... Guys) - it can be rational to play this hand. Exactly.

But, yes, amateur players are very far from this. I'm not kidding. Offline pro players understand, what I described above, perfectly. I don't even doubt.

Man. I open a stream of some player. When I open some material/information - I don't really care, who he is. I got my own brain. And, more than that, my aim of watching any materials - is to understand, WHAT does it mean.

And I see the first hands. Let's watch it together.

This pro (?) player, min-raised on a preflop from button and, having a weak hand, bets 1BB into the dangerous flop.

What kind of useless fish should his opponent be, not to raise this?

Of course he does. And our hero folds it. But yes, he is so pro. Let's say, it was a part of his long-term strategy.

Yes, demonstration of a weakness on the dangerous flop is so pro.

Lol, when I saw that 1BB bet, I was like "WTF", since I expected to see a pro level of playing, and simply surprised - "Does he expect his opponent not to raise him now???" This is what I thought. I still remember my emotions.

And I see the hand number 2.

37BB stack. The start of the tournament.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsmOMAYD...

Lol, guys. He limps on A5o?

What for? To let his opponent watch the flop on a garbage hand? May be i'm missing something... Crazy. But oh, YEAH - he is playing 500 $ Spins. Ok ok!! Yes, for sure, he is VERY cool. How could I doubt?

Lmao, I played 300$ MTT in 2008 with an average amateur level. SO WHAT?

Should I publish my gaming now?

Hand #3.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16vjbppz...

His opponent limps from a small blind in the start of the tournament.

He raises to 3BB?? Why not all-in? You kidding...

OF COURSE his opponent folds. I was like "WTF", once again, when I saw his raise. "Does he expect him to call this??".

Rofl, a hand (QQ), which would stay on the flop better in 80-90% cases, went to a "trash can" due to 3BB raise to collect +2BB?
Okay, gl waiting for the 3rd strongest hand in poker next time... May be in 10 next games... It will come.

So what do you want me to do next? Being impressed by this playing? Yes, I don't consider this as even an average amateur playing. You, guys? You just pray for everyone, who opened 500$ buy-in table? Must be very wise.

Btw, this is one of reasons, why you discuss poker with me, being not concentrated - since I played micro limits last years, you simply can't discuss the game with me. Because for that, you need to "assess" the information. You need to understand, the meaning of my words. But you only take something as a "proof" according to the limit of a player, but not according to the logic, which he provides. Lol, guys, when you discuss the game, you need to think, yourself (!)

I was really suprised, that Nath noticed, that I say about an importance of bluffing in poker. Was really nice of him, man is assessing the logic of conversation. Might be a good player.

Man, I hope, other guys can see the difference between description of the logic and proofs

Well your descriptions are so wage and fluid that they can not be proven or disproven.

Whenever it becomes obvious that your idea is nonsense again you just add on another layer to explain why the rig you perceive doesn't deliver the expected results.

You are starting with a desired result, the result being John Mir is a great poker player but unable to beat the games and work backwards from there.

Your comments on the spin and go are absolutely laughable.

just because you cant perceive of people playing more than a push fold strategy at 20 bb deep doesn't mean there is no room for that.

Shoving queens there is actually pretty terrible.

You simply have no idea how to play any format of poker but are especially out of your depth here.

Please keep on commenting on hands and even start commenting in strategy sections of the forum.

Remember what i told you from the very beginning. you seem to have the heart in the right place and if you could just overcome your massive ego and show modicum of humbleness you might actually learn and will at some point be able to beat the games.

This weird idea of yours that your are a world even player while you were unable to beat penny stakes is just unhealthy.

By the way dont forget i read the gypsy forum thread so you can stop the stories about just testing.

I saw the comments and chats from the ipoker chatroom in which you complain about running bad and are actually trying to play poker.

I also saw that your so called super run back in the day was according to yourself on gypsy winning a free roll and then winning 2k in a 5 dollar tournament.

So as I said from the very beginning the whole story here is that you ran hot for a while and won some money. started thinking you are gods gift to poker and couldn't face the reality that you are pretty damn bad.

I dont really understand why the you have this need for others to think of you as some kind of expert but its hurting your chances at success.

Everybody around you knows your a fraud man. You just keep on making a fool out of yourself.

DJ, fast comment from me before dinner, lol.

I mean, he should have min-raised (2BB) or check it! His main aim is to involve his opponent into a postflop gaming on such a strong hand like QQ!

It was an irony - "why not all-in"))

3BB raise looks as irrational as an all-in here... The raise is too big! Like he is a newcomer and plays according to his hand. New players usually play like that. They see QQ+ and raise 3-5BB, lol.

And just the same he does on J7s!

He got a weak hand and bets 1BB into 4.5BB pot?? Lol, why not to type in the table chat "mate, I got nothing, you can reraise me and take the pot!"

:shocked: (aww, 2+2 haven't got that "monkey closes eyes with its hands"... 😃)