8/16 Riverboat
I'm fairly new to limit, trying to branch out and learn something else, so I'm sure I have some leaks here.. but what else to do but learn 😀
I have played a few sessions of lower stakes and they were complete donk fests that were easy to beat (although rake is huge) and really not instructive, so I tried moving up. The vibe at 8/16 is very, very different and I am one of the weaker players at the table. It's a mix of regs waiting for bigger games, bigger game regs who are drinking heavily and having fun instead of trying hard, and a couple of fish. Unsure of my table image at this point, except I'm not open-limping or doing anything mega-fishy that I am aware of. I suspect I am a little too tight/passive with thin value even though I'm trying not to be, but it's probably beyond my skill to gauge here.
Main villain is a reg who is on the list for a bigger game, seems solid-ish.
Hero picks up 8s 8c UTG.
Hero raises, V 3b, BN (somewhat loose and fishy) and SB (a bit tight and face-up post) both take 3 cold. BB folds, Hero calls.
Flop ($97): Qc 9d 4d
X, x, V bets, BN calls, SB calls, H calls (???)
Turn ($129): Qc 9d 4d 8d
SB donks, H calls, V calls, BN folds.
River ($177): Qc 9d 4d 8d 4h
X, H bets, V raises, SB folds, Hero...?
I am embarrassingly uncertain I got the action on the flop and turn correct, as the game was going quite fast and it was harder to remember full hands. I know for sure that I was calling one bet on both streets, and I'm fairly sure that V was not the aggressor on at least one of them as I would have remembered that he took a bet-bet line, but unfortunately I can't remember for sure which street someone else bet.
In even one session of more serious limit play, I'm realizing that I am really struggling with how to play OOP, as you just don't have the same large-size x/r and later street leads available like you do in NL. One bet on the flop is usually a very small fraction of the pot, so it seems unclear to me how often to cbet on various textures.
10 Replies
Flop is a fold even at 18 to 1 - you don’t know if a diamond 8 is good.
River is a call.
River looks like a 3b to me.
Flop is a fold.
With 8d it’s close but idk it’s a lot to parlay and even if we hit an 8 we still might not have the best hand.
He really have to be be slow playing the nut flush on the turn for us to be ahead here. Shrug
Flop is only 15:1? And as stated, 8 d may not be good. Folding flop. V probably shows up with 99 or QQ(maybe 44) here but call river.
Compared to consensus, I may have gotten a little bit cocky on the river having made a boat.
Hero 3b, Villain makes it 4 bets, Hero sigh calls (???)
Spoiler
Villain shows 99 and we lose boat-over-boat
Good to know there is wisdom in folding flop. Makes sense given the 8d is a dirty out, but it's a big adjustment for me to balance playing tighter when multiway versus trying to loosen up a bit compared to same spot in NL.
Flop is a fold (even with the 8d) and river is a bet/call. Someone who is “solid” should not have any worse boats after he 3bets preflop and you’re really hoping that this is a slow played nut flush.
Even the 8h would have been a dirty out. Two other players called the flop, and JT is a very likely hand for one of them to hold.
You can open limp this UTG in an 8/16 game.
Yeah, fold flop with 1 clean out.
Limping this is a sin
