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Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.

01 June 2019 at 06:29 AM
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by Luciom

if a migrant with a good job was found to be armed to protect himself from other low income migrants i would 100% take his side as well. If a pakistani city trader, or an armenian jewerly owner, or a chinese restaurant owners are found to be armed why would you think i would not defend them?"concealed hatchets" lolVery telling it was the migrants who were doing the filming, hav

So what if it has gangsta content wtf has that got to do with the incident and yes concealed hatchet, (did you not see the actual video where she pulls them from her jeans?) as there's three possibilities here:
1) she just so happened to find a hatchet AND a bigass knife handily lying nearby.

2) a 12 or 13 year old managed to wrestle a knife and hatchet from a fully grown adult

3) she was armed and was carrying concealed weapons due to being a feral little chav and not due to a fear of violence.

I'm going with option three.

And I don't believe for so much as a nanosecond you'd speak in defence of any armed migrant regardless of circumstances due to your endless posts calling to kill everyone for stupid reasons. At least own your hatred. And it's hilarious you claim you'd defend armed migrants as long as they were defending themselves against other "low income " migrants. I take it your proclaimed defence of them wouldn't include their defending themselves against alt right attacks? You really were born in the wrong era and would be right at home back in Benito's day.


by corpus vile

But we aren't all armed and indeed the majority of us aren't, ergo don't feel the need to arm ourselves due to this apparent ubiquity of violence you claim. So no. This is just another doomsaying claim by you. Stay off alt right twitter.

it's not about violence being ubiquituous. You don't need that to justify the fear in 12y girls. At this point in modernity we should have very close to 0 actual street violence in all the developed world, and we know that's possible because Japan exists and shows us what's possible if you take in ZERO low quality foreigners.

So basically ALL street violence is excess violence, violence we could fix and we chose explicitly not to, and that's morally horrific. Especially because 90-95% of it would be fixed by stopping immigration of low quality people and repatriation en masse of those we mistakenly took in previously.


by corpus vile

So what if it has gangsta content wtf has that got to do with the incident and yes concealed hatchet, (did you not see the actual video where she pulls them from her jeans?) as there's three possibilities here:1) she just so happened to find a hatchet AND a bigass knife handily lying nearby. 2) a 12 or 13 year old managed to wrestle a knife and hatchet from a fully grown adult

"wtf has the moral character of the person accused by a 12y old girl to do if you have to evaluate who is telling the truth". Well a lot actually.

First of all you should always instinctively take the side of the native vs a non native in any gray situation. It's already a moral failure not to have that automatism.

Second of all you should always take the side of a 12y girl vs a young adult man in any gray situation. It's already a moral failure not to have that automatism

Third of all the most reasonable option is 4), she keeps weapons in a bush nearby in the area she lingers in outside because you never know if you are going to need them.

How do you presume a skinny 12y girl can conceal a hatchet in summer clothes ffs


I haven't read every word you've written here Luciom ldo but I'm not getting your theory here - was the girl given the hatchet by the evil conniving immigrants who then videod her brandishing it?


Fair play to Kiwior - WC year is coming and he wants game time.


by jalfrezi

I haven't read every word you've written here Luciom ldo but I'm not getting your theory here - was the girl given the hatchet by the evil conniving immigrants who then videod her brandishing it?

? no that's not her claim nor my reading of the situation.

My reading of the situation is she hanged out in the same area a lot, and she had a hiding place for the weapons there. Or maybe is a place shared with other endangered girls in the area. Which would actually be a sensible strategy in a country so ****ed head in it's head, it goes against 12y girls trying to defend themselves and not the people harassing them.

If you saw the video you can understand why it's basically physically impossible for her to conceal carry both weapons while being out in the street regularly, not in summer clothes.

And ofc if those were the immigrants weapons, they wouldn't have filmed


And of course if the Romanian couple had been harassing her thy wouldn't have filmed it either ldo.

And why on earth would a couple going to the shops want to harass a child? Don't be so stupid.


by jalfrezi

And of course if the Romanian couple had been harassing her thy wouldn't have filmed it either ldo.

And why on earth would a couple going to the shops want to harass a child? Don't be so stupid.

why would a 12y girl harass a normal couple going to a shop? do you understand in either case it's an unusual confrontation?

so why do you take the side of foreign adults instinctively and not of the 12y native girl? when one of the foreign adults has a tiktok with gansta content especially?

And why would the girl stay far away in the video and the adult immigrant man needs to come CLOSER to her threatening her by physical proximity so that she shows the weapon? it's not like he filmed the girl charging or swinging the weapons while going toward them did he?

How more defensive can you come than moving away ?


Because as I said before the kids in some areas have been indoctrinated by scummy people like you into believing that immigrants are bad people.


by Luciom

why would a 12y girl harass a normal couple going to a shop? do you understand in either case it's an unusual confrontation? so why do you take the side of foreign adults instinctively and not of the 12y native girl? when one of the foreign adults has a tiktok with gansta content especially?And why would the girl stay far away in the video and the adult immigrant man needs to c

I'm not taking sides, I'm accurately stating she had concealed weapons and I'm not buying it was due to a fear of violence. And you're clearly unfamiliar with chavs. They love harassing anyone and they absolutely thrive on confrontation and you seem to think that having tacky gangsta tiktok content is somehow worse than roaming around with a concealed knife and hatchet- it isn't.

She seemed to be getting in their face in that vid, she certainly didn't seem scared and had that typical "hit me I dare ya" attitude that chavs have, and we don't know how things kicked off, as the video doesn't provide context, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they started slagging off the couple for not speaking English as again that's what chavs do, and if it wasn't a foreign couple it would be someone else for some other reason. The fact that it was a couple and they were filming it makes me strongly suspect their filming was reactive and both those girls actually instigated things.


From the look of that video these teens look and sound like classic unhinged kids.
I guess most people here never set foot in the projects or hot suburbs.
Packs of kids like that are not as nice as one would think.


by jalfrezi

Because as I said before the kids in some areas have been indoctrinated by scummy people like you into believing that immigrants are bad people.

I'm originally from a really crappy council estate and I used to often see this type of carry on- it's not just immigrants it's anyone for whatever reason. These people are dragged up with their parents either on drugs or down the pub all day, assuming the dad is even around and not locked up, and if they even think you're looking crooked at them they'll instantly kick off.
Well before migrants they were weirdly obsessed with paedos for some reason; or else were starting shite on public transport or having mad parties all night or ripping aound on scramblers. They're just thugs looking for any excuse to get in someone's face and the younger ones are actually often the worst.


by Luciom

it's not about violence being ubiquituous. You don't need that to justify the fear in 12y girls. At this point in modernity we should have very close to 0 actual street violence in all the developed world, and we know that's possible because Japan exists and shows us what's possible if you take in ZERO low quality foreigners.So basically ALL street violence is excess violence,

You tried to pawn her carrying concealed weapons off as being due to a fear of violence and that's a load of bollix. Only feral little scuts carry concealed weapons due to them being scrotes, no other reason. If there were no foreigners at all and every country was homogeneous, these types would still carry weapons. That's just the way they are


by Luciom

? no that's not her claim nor my reading of the situation.My reading of the situation is she hanged out in the same area a lot, and she had a hiding place for the weapons there. Or maybe is a place shared with other endangered girls in the area. Which would actually be a sensible strategy in a country so ****ed head in it's head, it goes against 12y girls trying to defend thems

Well congrats for actually one upping your other post of bullshit with outright unbelievable bullshit. Hiding place due to endangered girls lmfao.😆
Lucky she was near her hiding place when those evil migrants attacked her innit? As the only other explanation is she was roaming around with concealed weapons. And lolat "summer clothes " she's clearly seen pulling the weapons from her "summer clothes" and then concealing them again ffs. I take it she stays within a meter of this fabled "bush" at all times just in case she needs to protect herself?😆
You really are hilarious.


Someone else who’d also be hilarious if he wasn’t in power.


by corpus vile

Well congrats for actually one upping your other post of bullshit with outright unbelievable bullshit. Hiding place due to endangered girls lmfao.😆 Lucky she was near her hiding place when those evil migrants attacked her innit? As the only other explanation is she was roaming around with concealed weapons. And lolat "summer clothes " she's clearly seen pulling the weapons fro

How the flying **** do you conceal 2 weapons on that body with those clothes for more than a few minutes, how do you walk around before the encounter


by jalfrezi

Someone else who’d also be hilarious if he wasn’t in power.



by Luciom

so why do you take the side of foreign adults instinctively and not of the 12y native girl?

Same reason as the law does. They weren't the ones illegally going armed. And the police deny that the 'youths' -- who approached the Bulgarian couple, not the other way round -- were at any risk of assault, and they've warned people not to spread misinformation about the incident, as Elon Musk and Tommy Robinson have predictably been doing.

Possibly you've never lived in an area where feral kids go marauding. But it is very much a thing, and can end in GBH or murder. (Note one of those detained in the case below is a 12-year-old girl.)


Here we go again - another racist attack that'll have Luciom lying down on his bed


by Luciom

How the flying **** do you conceal 2 weapons on that body with those clothes for more than a few minutes, how do you walk around before the encounter

Lol. You clearly see her pulling them from her jeans hidden by her tee-shirt. Ergo...it was concealed


by corpus vile

Lol. You clearly see her pulling them from her jeans hidden by her tee-shirt. Ergo...it was concealed

for minutes after she already had retrieved them. You are purporting she goes out of home with those and spends hours every day with those weapons "concealed" like that, she can't even walk normally with those weapons in her pants ffs


Or she was equipped and sent by her family to try to provoke people by abusing them, which backfired.

Or they knew who had those weapons in their shed and walked around with them that day because it made them feel fearless.


by Luciom

for minutes after she already had retrieved them. You are purporting she goes out of home with those and spends hours every day with those weapons "concealed" like that, she can't even walk normally with those weapons in her pants ffs

Lol I'm not interested in your flat out gaslighting at this stage.




Rayner gone, hopefully.

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