GGPoker - Impossible to win the hand against limpers
Hello all,
I've been reading this forum since forever, but I think I never registered and posted anything.
Recently, I've started playing more on GG, mostly Rush & Cash, and all stakes, pretty much, even NL200.
I've noticed a very interesting "pattern" and I wanted to share. I'm not a biased person, just trust me on that, due to my background, but that's not the point here.
The pattern is:
- Someone needs to limp from a position before SB.
- Then someone else needs to raise.
- Then the limper should call.
If this happens, limper is always ahead and always wins the hand.
Since I do not have PokerTracker or any other hand analysis tool besides PokerCraft, which doesn't have an option to search for hands where there was a limper, I can't really provide examples.
I do remember one, where a player limped on the BTN, I raised 5bb from SB, BB folded, and BTN called. As I hate these limpers from my heart and soul, I jammed all in with AA on a flop 8s Jc 4s. This was on NL200. Limper snap called. Shows 88. I said run once, he refuses cash out. Turn comes Ts. He refuses cash out again, river comes 8. So, he wins with four of a kind. Sure, I misplayed this badly, there's no discussion on that, and I'm not here to complain about that particular lose. I really want to check with other people who play on GG if they observed similar pattern, and if they can, maybe, check in their PokerTracker.
I do remember a bunch of examples, but not in great details like the one above, mostly because this one really hurts.
This keeps happening to me over and over again, so much, that I started folding as soon as there's a limper. Literally. AKo with limper? Fold. AQs with limper? Fold. But in the example above, I had AA, and I just wouldn't fold that. Obviously, it proves my point that in a scenario where there's a limper, and I raise, and limper calls, I lose the hand.
From now on, I will fold ANY hand if someone limps. F*** it.
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Of course you didn't provide any useful insights, or anything useful at all, but you comment the most unimportant thing in the post.
Why do you even say anything at all in that case?
I am not biased, that's it. I don't think I should or can win every hand. Losing is part of the game. Bad cards come. Sometimes you bet while you're drawing dead. It's all part of the game. I am not saying anywhere at all that "poker sites are rigged" and other stuff. However, because of my background, I notice little stuff, and this is one thing that I noticed. I only want to know if other people can find this specific pattern in their hand history, and discuss the findings.
So, please, either join the discussion or ignore it. No need to be a monkey.
Of course you didn't provide any useful insights, or anything useful at all, but you comment the most unimportant thing in the post.Why do you even say anything at all in that case?I am not biased, that's it. I don't think I should or can win every hand. Losing is part of the game. Bad cards come. Sometimes you bet while you're drawing dead. It's all part of the game. I am not
U didnt provide anything of use too lol. So what is ur background? Collecting empty cans?
I really want to check with other people who play on GG if they observed similar pattern, and if they can, maybe, check in their PokerTracker.
There are guys, who play on GG, and discuss this kind of stuff in another thread -
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/di...
Personally, I never played on GG.
But, things, which you say, comply with my information about iPoker.
By the way, you don't need a tracker to check, how often it happens.
After each session you can open a hand replayer (just don't close it right after the tournament/cash session ended), and just fast forward all the hands fastly.
Open MS Excel. Input
- Your hand
- His hand
- The result (won/lost)
And watch, how often do you really lose this kind of situations.
You will have to track only several sessions to understand, if your visual impressions fit to the real statistics.
This site offers a variety of useful guides.
You can also try limping yourself. Doesn't seem to work in tournaments, though.
