[CoinPoker] - Official - Bringing the Game Back to Players

Something like starting between 7:00 and 8:30.
HKG time
any day is fine

Thanks for answering all the other questions

Lol yeah how lousy. Gone are the days when those reps showed any passion for their job i guess.

GG rakeback good? Copy GG? I hope you are joking

If you have 50% advertised rakeback on GG you often get way way less
I had a PVI of 0.25 which means I would have only gotten 12.5%
GG has the most sketchy rb system of all

anybody else have a table frozen??

I am having same problem. 3 of my 4 tables wont ope

Hello,

I have registered for three of the bankroll starter freerolls in the last hour or so, and have not been able to open my table in any of them. For two of them, I late registered. For the other, I registered early, but the table just didn't open once the tournament was scheduled to begin.

Also, in each of them, it is showing that every registered player still has the same stack as the starting stack, so it must mean that the same thing is happening for everyone who registered.

Is anyone else here encountering this problem now?

Heads-Up Ruling: CoinPoker Allows Bumhunting & Penalizes Those Who Fight Back

Hi everyone,

I’d like to share a situation that happened to me on a CoinPoker and get your feedback, especially from other HU cash grinders.

I’ve been playing heads-up NLHE for years, and I’m used to the dynamics: regulars fighting for tables, chasing each other, sitting out when needed; it’s part of the ecosystem.
Personally, I’ve always fought back against regs who chase me, out of respect for the game and to protect my action.

Here’s what happened:

A player named SickOstrish sits first and plays only recreational players.

Every time a regular (like me) sits him, he immediately sits out.

I sat him to deny him the ability to selectively bumhunt.

In response, he reported me, and surprisingly: the platform sided with him.

Their support team told me I wasn’t allowed to sit him and essentially called me a bumhunter, they said my attitude was predatory.

Meanwhile, every day I get chased by other strong regulars (Korner1, DanceATone, HusGansen, etc.). I never reported them. I fight them, that’s part of the game.

The site now lets SickOstrish sit out any time a reg sits him, while the rest of us fight each other normally.

He gets protected. We get punished.

As a result, I’ve decided to cash out and stop playing there. I simply can’t accept this kind of ruling.

In my view, this not only breaks the spirit of fair competition but also actively encourages bumhunting and kills both action and rake.

Have you ever heard of such a ruling before?

Would love to hear your thoughts, am I crazy, or is this as ridiculous as it sounds?

Id like to copy/paste the mail they sent me to warn me about my attitude, but Im not sure if I can legally do it or not?

Waiting to hear your toughts, thank you so much in advance.

Meow.

can anyone confirm if Coinpoker accepts real money deposits from players in NY ?

Experienced something pretty similar at midstakes plo.

Mind you, plo players are some of the most lazy, miserable, **** work ethic bumhunters because a lot of them are holdem rejects that are just seeking out the easier game and when facing difficulty they seek out what's easier as opposed to overcoming what's in their way.

Saw someone open sitting 500plo hu that I simply think should not be, so I grab the seat. He instantly sits out. Okay, fair enough.
He then proceeds to open the next lobby. I instantly sit because why would I take a 50/50 on if a rec sits me or him? He instantly sits out and starts another lobby.
I normally have chat off because it almost never is used for anything that matters.

I turn it back on and tell him to "stop spamming new lobbies if you're not going to defend them"
I get hit with "I'm not playing you, f off"
"That's fine, but you don't get rights to fish in hu lobbies just because"
"I do whatever I want, stop before I report you"
I proceeded to well...not stop...because that's how this works. HU lobbies should be king of the hill. When hu lobbies are allowed to be spammed you get walls of 1/2 sitting where every reg is gambling on if the rec sits them and really bad bumhunting regs can sometimes sneak into holding the lobbies and either take the fish or I have to manage lobbies like crazy to try to sit them myself.

I got warned for predatory behaviour. Pretty sure the coinpoker supp team just sees a report and instantly sends a warning to the person reported without thinking much. And I don't blame them necessarily, they're just doing what they're told.

Sites don't really seem to understand how HU lobby etiquette should work and neither do the players. Unfortunately, HU is a dying game because it's quite bad for sites' bottom lines. Recs will lose insanely fast and to their one specific reg opponent as opposed to lower winrates being distributed. It's why sites have slowly phased out HU, shorter handed, and even deeper stack buyins.

The more players at the table and the shorter the stacks = the lower the winrates = the longer that net depositors get to play and feel good = more net rake paid. Sites want everyones' winrates to be as close to 0 as possible across the board.

I agree with almost everything you said, and it’s really a shame that you also got warned for “predatory behavior.”
I’m honestly relieved to see I’m not crazy... I’ve spoken with several professional poker players as well, and every single one of them told me I’m right.

The only point where I disagree with you is regarding the CoinPoker support team. I do think they deserve criticism.
Their handling of this situation is shameful. It’s not just one support agent who made a bad call. When I received the first warning email, I replied and laid out the exact same arguments I posted here.
Their response? They doubled down and confirmed the ruling.

It’s a complete disgrace, and frankly disrespectful: to call me a bumhunter when, in reality, I was the one fighting against an actual bumhunter.

You know the type of players I’m talking about, and to be honest, I don’t usually care about them when they’re not being protected. Sure, they have a high winrate (around 30bb/100) because they only play vs recreational players, but their hourly is terrible since they have to leave every time a reg sits them.
(Special shoutout to "AboveAverage", who literally ends his session as soon as I start chasing him 😂. Dude, you should’ve emailed support and cried a bit, they probably would’ve helped you too!)

The real problem starts when these players get protected by the room; like they do on CoinPoker. At that point, they get the best of both worlds: high winrate and good hourly.
That’s completely unfair to the regs who are grinding, fighting for tables, and playing regwars.

I completely agree with you: the “King of the Hill” dynamic should be the default in any serious HU ecosystem.

Any CoinPoker representative here who would like to share their opinion?

they should just make hu king of the hill and promote it with weekly rankings by buyin level and some type of prize for biggest winners

this gets out the bum hunters who are just max extracting and probably gets more people actually battling, competing and playing

@Coinpoker_Rep

Why are withdrawals no longer instant?

Its taking more than 30 mins and sometimes more than 1hr for the withdrawal to be approved and sent out.

Seems like the guy in charge of approving the cashouts is no longer as on the ball as before.

Anyone experiencing the same thing?

I agree , something needs to be done about the HU lobbies. It's the same crew of guys who just open sit multiple tables, won't play each other, and if they determine you are not a fish in 5-10 hands they just sit out and open new tables.

This is clearly bad for recreationals and professionals. Some regs like myself also don't mind just battling other regs, but can never do so because this group of players always sits out after a few hands. These are the worst type of players for the ecosytem as well.

If you are open sitting you should have to play a challenger who sits down or not be allowed to open new tables.

13meow37 what was your name on there? Feel free to pm if youd rather not disclose on here. I am having similar problems with a similar group of accounts that you mentioned.

My nickname on CoinPoker is the same than here, 13Meow37 so yea... Don't care about disclosing it.

I also wanted to mention another important issue with CoinPoker and many other sites as well.
This problem can only be solved by implementing anonymous tables or giving the opportunity to the players to change their nickname regulary.

Right now, trackers that read local memory can build hand histories even from spectator tables: pure datamining.
This allows individual players, or even entire groups, to collect massive hand histories without ever playing.
There are even public websites (easy to find with a quick Google search) that sell millions of hands for just a few buy-ins at your limit.

You want a full database on the entire player pool without playing a single hand?
No problem: just pay and download.

In my opinion, this is just as damaging as the bumhunters abusing sitout mechanics.

Yet another solid reason why anonymous tables should be available across all formats and stakes. Not just in theory, but as a real protection for the integrity of the game.

Some of the HU regs you listed try to play 5+ tables at a time and use there time bank almost every action. Pretty sure i would get more hands per hour at a 7 max tables then playing them. If i was forced to play against them i wouldn't play on coinpoker would be to boring

How do these games compare to WPN? It seems lucky if you have a guy 35% vpip on coin, I haven't played to long on here, but there definitely doesn't seem to be many recreationals.

It's been over a day for me and still nothing.

I was checking in the history tab and it says WaitingAproval.

So I sent a message to support saying this:

I received the following email:

Since the CoinPoker rep was unable to answer the question. I was wondering if anybody might happen to know how many days 72 business hours equal? My withdrawal was requested on the 16th @ 4:38AM GMT. Since their operation is going 24/7, over 3 days would be over 72 hours. Maybe it is 9 days and not 3, but I guess the rep just didn't feel like answering the question.

I'd also like to understand what is so so difficult in... I don't know, giving me my own god damn money. I really don't see why this is an issue or what even needs to be processed. I really hope it is just incompetence by CoinPoker and their inability to function as a business. But there is the possibility of something more nefarious going on. Like stealing player funds. I don't really want to go spreading the word that they're stealing money yet, but it is starting to look that way. I had about $4,000 on the site and I guess it is in a perpetual state of WaitingAproval. I had no idea that I needed approval to access my own money.

If anyone is reading this and considering joining CoinPoker, I'd strongly recommend against it, because this is simply just unacceptable as a business. Again, I'm not saying they are necessarily stealing money from me, but it is definitely starting to look that way. I really really hope that it is just incompetence.

It makes me so angry that all they have to do is probably click a stupid button that let's my transaction go through, but they are deliberately choosing not to.

How is the money in a "perpetual state of waiting aproval" if you withdrew it 3 days ago?
And how can you jump to "they are stealing my money" so quickly?
If this is the level of patience maybe using the money to play poker isnt the wisest option.

I'm not saying that they are stealing money, but the longer it takes the more it looks that way. How long is an acceptable amount of time that I should be waiting before I get concerned?

They were the ones that said up to 72 business hours, not me.