TT squeeze?

So we go to 120, we are obviously pot committed against original raiser who has 250. I would call and see a flop.

or everyone could fold, which is just as likely if not more so

Bad excuse to not squeeze for value.

You get allin 20% to win if the raiser has JJ+.

you just default to assuming a PFR has JJ+ when opening? i missed the part where OP says villain is an OMC or Gobbledygeek.

Could go either way tbh, $120 commits you but calling keeps ranges wider.

TT OOP is tricky because it’s a strong hand pre-flop that can be easily dominated post-flop by overcards. In general, you don’t want to bloat the pot with this hand.

However, nitty is right once again. A raise of this size should narrow the field, if not take it down now. I think you might as well fold as call. You won’t win with this hand often vs 3 players and you’ll be lost the entire way.

A strong pre-flop hand needs to be played strong pre-flop. There are far more little flops than overcard flops where you will be ahead & if you reduce it to one opponent they will miss that overcard more than they hit it.

Shortstack is the only one not capped, so the others should get out of the way. Sure, you’ll have to play poker post-flop, but give yourself a chance to win.

Squeeze is good. Go with it against original raiser for less than 100BB. If someone else comes along it'll be awkward, but you'd be way ahead of a double flatter. If someone backraises then fold. Don't flat OOP multiway, that way madness lies. I could see folding 99. Just folding TT wouldn't be disastrous either tbh.

What do you make of the 7x open? That's another factor. Is that normal for the table? In a vacuum that would edge things towards this being a fold

Calling with any pp 4-way is profitable.

My concern is his range to 7x open may be too strong to commit to gii against, but 3!ing could be good, depending on reads.

Also, not sure the callers couldn't have JJ/QQ in a 2/3 game.

^this.

Mostly agree with this, but I don't put the overcaller on almost any JJ+ especially QQ+. There is some chance that the first caller could have some/a lot of JJ/occasional QQ.

In a 2/5 game, the second caller wouldn't have a lot of JJ/QQ. In a 2/3 game, some loose/passive fish only 3! KK+. Depends on the players and table.

At the end of the day, I think it's what kind of poker you want to play.

Call to set mine for a lower variance game.
Squeeze a more +ev play but higher variance.
Also it depends on pop tendencies, if pop tendencies opening 20 means big bet/big hand then calling is better. If 20 is considered small then squeezing is best.

As far as I remember, in theory, TT mixes flat and 3bet from the BB, even HU and facing a standard 3x open.
In this case, we face an almost 7x open and two callers, which should skew our decision towards an overcall, I guess.

The shorter we are the more I'd 3bet as the dead money is a significant part of stacks (so good risk versus reward even though we'll run into sometimes). The deeper we are, the more I would flat and play postflop.

FWIW, in my game lately (like the last year or two) one of the flatters has a monster, like, a surprising amount of the time. My last session out I saw AA/KK flatted/overflatted like at least 4 times (and I did indeed 3bet punt into one of these). it's just something I'm a little more aware of.

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I kind of like the "what type of poker do you want to play, " advice from dangomango. My go-to vs. an unknown MAWG w/ less than 100bb and loose/passive players is to flat and set mine or hit a favorable flop/turn w/ can outplay them on (or just value bet).

FOLD 99 to a raise closing the action in bb? BAN.

Not sure you understand the format, or raise/stack sizes ... if everyone is wide I can see shrug 3bet 99 too.

MP (PFR) only has 250 and raised to 20 ... ya'll have to be much better minners than I to autocall any pocketpair.

Also set value should go way down in this format where it's pretty difficult for us to get 480 in postflop.

Very likely to make it 120 and hope everyone folds or MP puts it in and let's us 5bet if anyone else calls. Aka. what NittyOldMan1 said two days ago.

Folding TT 4-way closing the action is beyond terrible. You have good immediate odds for your set. You also have implied odds against all 3 players, not just the shallow raiser. You can also often continue on low flops, although it can be tricky on some flops. There is also the possibility of set over set. 22 is a call, but TT is much better.

Now 3-betting may be more profitable.

Result: Hero calls but feels bad about it.

Flop 764cc, V cbets 40, 2 folds, Hero crai and stacks V who has 55.

Did you see the results? TT was probably the best hand preflop, and hero was able to continue on a low flop. Folding TT in this situation would be extremely bizarre and awful.

If you think the original raiser is strong, then call. Sure it will be difficult to play TT OOP on some flops. You don't fold premium hands because you might get into a tricky situaiton postflop.

In any case, there are only some flops that are hard to play. Sets and 2 overcards are easy. This overpair is easy against the short stack.

If you've worked out how to profitably cold call multiway OOP with a medium pair to a 7x open from an unknown player sitting 80BB deep, I suggest tackling the Riemann hypothesis next - it shouldn't be much more difficult.

The only positive in this situation is the implied odds of set-over-set against the two cold callers on 200BB, and that's clutching at straws.

Flat calling from the BB with 22 4-ways is profitable. Obviously, it isn't a call with a small pp HU.