The murder of Charlie Kirk
Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?
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If you're a human being, once you see an organization fully endorse and materially support genocide, you reject the slate of choices offered to you and reconstruct the slate.
You know you're going to leave the party. You have to know, on some level, looking at these crooked clowns, they have to go down. Just look into the future a little bit. So you might as well go now. Don't be a deadender for genocidal maniacs.
that he was plausibly detached from "real life" because of online subcultures can be explained with "videogames and people playing them 12 hours per day fried his brains" to a boomer
Except that isn’t even close to a full explanation and needlessly serves blame to all videogames (are we really going back to this one?).
I mean, I was today years old when I learned there is a niche trans fascist incel memelord subculture deep in the 4chan areas of the internet…
I learned a long time ago, that if you can imagine it - or even imagine that someone else can imagine it - somewhere on the internet there is a community, instructions, video showing how to do it, and product for sale.
If you're a human being, once you see an organization fully endorse and materially support genocide, you reject the slate of choices offered to you and reconstruct the slate.You know you're going to leave the party. You have to know, on some level, looking at these crooked clowns, they have to go down. Just look into the future a little bit. So you might as well go now. Don't b
propal people materially support other genocides though, everyone does
Not that crossnerd is doing this but I see a lot of leftists claiming that incels will groom each other into transitioning so they can finally get some.
The argument seems to be that if you can’t get some with a girl you’ll choose to get one with a guy, which sounds oddly homophobic. Or that incels are actually deeply closeted men which also sounds homophobic.
I give very little sympathy to incels who are not just involuntarily celebate but also buy into an insane ideology. Plenty of guys remain virgins well into adulthood without blaming their problems on everyone else.
But I think it's irresponsible of the media, the president, all the pundits to making outlandish claims w/o evidence. That's my main point in all this.
They came right out of the gate immediately pushing a narrative to get it set in place--which with these guys is naturally going to make people suspect lol
Something seems off about that kid doing the interview he seems to have picked up a lot of convo while passing by on a bike for what 2 seconds? There's way too much bs flying around and it's not too hard to wait a bit and hopefully see some more credible info. So many of the early sources were sketchy as hell.
It’s just looking more like this is neither an alt-right groyper nor a trans left activist, but an instance of incel memelord black pill culture. He doesn’t have a political identity, he’s a social reject who poisoned his brain with 4chan content.That’s why it’s taking them so long to figure it out and release information. The older generations are totally out to sea when it co
My niece isn't fringe by any means but she's on all those things. She occasionally sends me stuff that I don't get at all.
I was about to disagree, but then I thought what if we had a genocide targeting the genociders. Disregarding the logical inconsistency there (that once I genocide the genociders I become a genocider myself), maybe you have a point.
Let's clarify. Genocide based on immutable demographic traits is the worst thing human being can do. Based on behavior though???
There is and it was the main reason some niches of MAGA were very against Trump EO removing trans people from the militaries. Because the narrative is those trans fascists are the best warriors ever basically, ultra-committed to massacring all enemies and so on.
Where do you get this stuff from? What 'niche of MAGA' are you talking about? Citation would help.
There is also eyewitness testimony from a neighbor that claims to have seen him kissing his roommate. No idea if that neighbor’s testimony was reliable because the logistics of it seem weird (riding by on a bike, heard a conversation and kissing?) but maybe he’s just describing it weird.
"eyewitness testimony who claims....." LOL
I was about to disagree, but then I thought what if we had a genocide targeting the genociders. Disregarding the logical inconsistency there (that once I genocide the genociders I become a genocider myself), maybe you have a point.
Let's clarify. Genocide based on immutable demographic traits is the worst thing human being can do. Based on behavior though???
no It isn't by far, like not even remotely close. we did that as lot as a species and here we are, the most dominant life form that ever existed on this planet.
if you are pro human (IE if you judge the morality of something based on how much the entire human species benefits from that something down the line) then the worst things we can do are those that massively decrease our collective well being not only in the present but in the integral of all the time in the future we will exist as well.
wiping out small subsects of humanity don't come close to , say, slowing growth even 0.05% (given how compounding works).
and I really don't think anyway that you consider aborting down syndrome fetuses a very immoral thing (I don't), even if we kill all of them for immutable characteristics.
nor I think you believe human behavior has no basis on genetics.
to end, no Palestinian is being killed for immutable characteristics: those who self deported aren't killed. so choosing to stay there is 100% behavior...
It’s just looking more like this is neither an alt-right groyper nor a trans left activist, but an instance of incel memelord black pill culture. He doesn’t have a political identity, he’s a social reject who poisoned his brain with 4chan content.That’s why it’s taking them so long to figure it out and release information. The older generations are totally out to sea when it co
As a boomer myself, I don't really understand anything about this stuff.
Luciom apparently understands all of it, so I guess we'll have to rely on him to sort it out for us.
As a boomer myself, I don't really understand anything about this stuff.
Luciom apparently understands all of it, so I guess we'll have to rely on him to sort it out for us.
I understand this because I am a 42y old permanently online (for work, gaming, political discussions and so on) with a 13y old son who plays a lot of games, and i play games with median age of the gamer 10-20 years less than me, so I actually deal with those people regularly.
Considering the power grabs and messaging pre and post kirk and the thirst for bloodlust and totalitarianism I think it’s a fair question to ask how long til MAGA’s message becomes ‘you’re alive in this country only because we allow it’?I give them credit….absent being able to villainize a group and rally the troops around that villainization MAGA has nothing, certainly not the
Any credit is too much. Jan 6th showed us that, in the words of Dennis Green, they are who we thought they were. For me that's just a bewildered herd of old cranky fatsos.
Don't crown their asses just yet.
And keep in mind these are the same threats issued in response to the signage at Cracker-barrel being changed in some supposed low key woke revision.
Can you explain to me what’s so funny about what I just said? You realize that there have been cases before of someone testifying to something and then completely recanting their story down the line, right?
it's correct to be skeptical of eye witnessing in general, especially when it's out of a trial especially when it's an insanely high profile event with enormous pressure to deliver "anything" from the media and the perfect situation with anyone wanting even 3 seconds of fame to chime in
Any credit is too much. Jan 6th showed us that, in the words of Dennis Green, they are who we thought they were. For me that's just a bewildered herd of old cranky fatsos.
Don't crown their asses just yet.
And keep in mind these are the same threats issued in response to the signage at Cracker-barrel being changed in some supposed low key woke revision.
the cracker barrel logo redoing was canceled and they went back to the old logo though
it's correct to be skeptical of eye witnessing in general, especially when it's out of a trial especially when it's an insanely high profile event with enormous pressure to deliver "anything" from the media and the perfect situation with anyone wanting even 3 seconds of fame to chime in
Yes and if you watch the interview, the witness was being led on quite strongly by the interviewer. The interview asked him if he knew that this person was getting a procedure to transition to a woman, and he said yes. When asked how he knew that he said “I overheard them talking about a doctor’s appointment”. Ok, overhearing someone talking about a doctor’s appointment doesn’t really confirm they are trans. Also, he said he saw them holding hands and kissing at the same time, and this was all supposedly as he was “riding on my bike so I didn’t see the whole thing”. And the interview clarified if this was the same incident and he said it was. So he both overheard them talking about a doctors appointment, which confirms the roommate is trans somehow, and also kissing and holding hands. It’s possible that happened but it would be strange for all that to happen in the span of the 10 seconds of passing by them on the bike.
Again I’m not jumping to conclusions here, just picturing how a good lawyer would shred apart his testimony.
no It isn't by far, like not even remotely close. we did that as lot as a species and here we are, the most dominant life form that ever existed on this planet.
The fact that the species itself survives does not mean it can do no wrong.
And in the nuclear age genocide and ethnic cleansing will lead to the death of the species.
and I really don't think anyway that you consider aborting down syndrome fetuses a very immoral thing (I don't), even if we kill all of them for immutable characteristics.
I stated demographic immutable characteristics.
Indeed I don't. I am not an expert, but a close observer of findings in the field called behavioral genetics. I do believe the scientific consensus that human behavior has a large genetic component. What the research is showing is conservatives are genetically and slightly anatomically differentiated from "liberals". And, yes, I think that conservatives will have to be identified and dealt with one day if we are to survive as a species. I don't predict that will happen though. I think they will kill us all.
So we would have had a civil war had the hedge fund who owns cracker barrel not capitulated?
no I don't think that would have happened.
I don't think a civil war would happen even if trump got assassinated fwiw.
I don't think aging societies can have civil wars. civil unrest sure, but civil wars? nah.
I can't think of any ever happening with over 30 of median age.
Greece was basically eviscerated by European union institutions and didnt have a civil war. Ukraine is maybe the closest we had to a civil war in a non young society but the war only happened because of extreme foreign intervention on both sides allowing for an actual war to occur
