The "LOLCANADA" thread...again
So what's new?
I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet
Chrsta Freeland calling it quits to take a cushy appointment surprised me. Curious if she was pushed out or.....
Never a fan but good on her for having a decent political career . I do give her credit for finally standing up to Trudeau's insane GST holiday
What evidence have you posted that it isn't? Of course other possibilities are mentioned, but can you agree that in academics and society the expectation is for kids that have eligible grades should go to college?
LMAO. You guys are all insisting college is a scam, and I keep asking you wtf about it qualifies it as a "Scam" and am getting crickets. Now you want me to find evidence it ISN"T a scam - buddy I don't even know why ya'll think it is to start on disproving it.
But to your question....no? Like sure, going to university is (quite reasonably!) considered a decent path for smart kids with good grades. But you snuck in that coy little "should" word again. There's plenty of reasonable and viable paths to a good career and they don't all go through university and if someone has an interest and aptitude for some other career path that's 100% fine and I think almost everybody but like the most militant like my-childs-academics-is-my-whole-identity **** parents would think that was 100% fine.
Let’s be honest large percentage of degrees do not lead to a high paying job or a job you require a degree for
Ok? If someone is getting a degree in like classic literature or some **** like that, I don't think they also believe that this is some straight pathway to a high paying job that requires that degree. There's lots of reasons people go to university (or not go to university). But studying something you are passionate about and find interesting and becoming a better version of yourself for it are all reasonable things for people to do. Heck even math while it has a million applications and crucial to engineering and physics etc etc, doing a PhD in pure math to continue on in pure math research is a fairly esoteric and aesthetic thing to do as opposed to a "practical" one, and I always advise people they should only do that if they really genuinely love math. Like while it is true that a math phd can help you get a good job, if you want a good job only you shouldn't go try get a math phd!
LMAO. You guys are all insisting college is a scam, and I keep asking you wtf about it qualifies it as a "Scam" and am getting crickets. Now you want me to find evidence it ISN"T a scam - buddy I don't even know why ya'll think it is to start on disproving it.
I just posted 45% of graduates don't use their degree for employment and 2/3rds regret going to college. But I forgot you said you know people that tell kids about other options.
But to your question....no? Like sure, going to university is (quite reasonably!) considered a decent path for smart kids with good grades. But you snuck in that coy little "should" word again. There's plenty of reasonable and viable paths to a good career and they don't all go through university and if someone has an interest and aptitude for some other career path that's 100%
Agreed it is fine, but that isn't what kids have been told. The whole "work smarter, not harder" campaign, removing shop classes from schools, being told any college degree is better than no degree. There a bunch of examples of kids being pushed towards college and student loans.
I just posted 45% of graduates don't use their degree for employment and 2/3rds regret going to college. But I forgot you said you know people that tell kids about other options. Agreed it is fine, but that isn't what kids have been told. The whole "work smarter, not harder" campaign, removing shop classes from schools, being told any college degree is better than no degree. Th
Um lol did you just take 1/3 and magically make that 2/3?
I don't really think we disagree all that much to be honest on this issue. It just seems you are insisting on calling something a scam, and then throwing like too extreme versions of things that most normal people don't say as tepid justification. Like 45% is about what I'd expect, I don't think of university is entirely being a vocational training system, there are plenty of degrees people get that won't map to a direct high income job, and like not surprisingly either, like I suspect that almost everyone getting a degree in say greek and roman studies or whatever knows that outside of some very rare like museum jobs, this isn't a path to a direct job in that field. That's ok. I'd totally agree if you didn't want to do that but it's also totally fine if you do. I don't think its some scam. I think it's much more that people should follow their own passions and interests.
I don't know what "work smarter, not harder" as a specific campaign is, is this some alberta thing? I don't know specifically about shop classes, but schools have lots of classes that are intending students towards university and those that aren't, for instance I know specifically in math in BC there are two entirely different streams one that is more university bound and one that absolutely isn't (and it puts up barriers when students take that stream and then want into my university level calculus courses). As to your final comment, it really depends how you say it. Like if you take two otherwise identical candidates, i think most employers in any kind of knowledge field probably hire the one with the college degree even if it isn't relevant. Not saying that is right or wrong, but it's probably true.
Um lol did you just take 1/3 and magically make that 2/3? I don't really think we disagree all that much to be honest on this issue. It just seems you are insisting on calling something a scam, and then throwing like too extreme versions of things that most normal people don't say as tepid justification. Like 45% is about what I'd expect, I don't think of university is entirely
I would agree with you in the past but I do think that is changing now and this applies more to the USA
I don't really think we disagree all that much to be honest on this issue. It just seems you are insisting on calling something a scam, and then throwing like too extreme versions of things that most normal people don't say as tepid justification. Like 45% is about what I'd expect, I don't think of university is entirely being a vocational training system, there are plenty of d
Anyway, I've spent enough time on this. I get it, the left wing university prof doesn't think college is a scam. We are facing a huge skilled labor shortage, there's a reason for that.
I don't know what "work smarter, not harder" as a specific campaign is, is this some alberta thing?
No, Alberta is probably the one place where anything but college isn't looked down on.
Is this some like insular worldview where you know what you are saying isn't true about Alberta, but you just presume it is true about the places you don't live with no evidence? Ok.
Rumors have it Steven Guilbeault will be the next to leave . If this is true even more respect for Carney
Anyway, I've spent enough time on this. I get it, the left wing university prof doesn't think college is a scam. We are facing a huge skilled labor shortage, there's a reason for that.
No, Alberta is probably the one place where anything but college isn't looked down on.
Really ?
Hopefully u won’t tell me this comes from a left entity…
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/...
Spending per K-12 student in Canada ranged from $13,494 in Alberta to $19,484 in Quebec in 2022/23
On the other hand, Saskatchewan went from the highest in per-student spending to seventh, and Alberta went from fifth highest to tenth, the lowest.
For a province that claim to be highly profitable and rich , pretty pathetic imo .
Really ?
Hopefully u won’t tell me this comes from a left entity…
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/...
For a province that claim to be highly profitable and rich , pretty pathetic imo .
Hey great lets just look at the amount a province spends and not the results. I know Alberta teachers are looking for a new deal and are offered 3% per year over 4 years and looks like they will reject it
Here is an issue I think you and I agree on . Alberta has two main school boards Catholic and Public . This is nuts the government should only fund public education . There is no reason to build two elementary schools are two junior highs or two high schools one catholic and one public . Your paying all those administrative costs for two school boards
Here is an issue I think you and I agree on . Alberta has two main school boards Catholic and Public . This is nuts the government should only fund public education . There is no reason to build two elementary schools are two junior highs or two high schools one catholic and one public . Your paying all those administrative costs for two school boards
Stupid argument. They need the schools anyway, all the schools are full, schools receive funding per student enrollment not whether or not they are Catholic or public.
Stupid argument. They need the schools anyway, all the schools are full, schools receive funding per student enrollment not whether or not they are Catholic or public.
Do you not think there would be massive savings in one school board or building bigger single schools ?
I also don't like catholic public schools, but i'm oddly with shifty: most of the expenses are in the per classroom category and the savings from like more efficient administration I suspect would be a fairly tiny fraction of the school budget:/
Do you not think there would be massive savings in one school board or building bigger single schools ?
No? There is only so much space to build a single school, you need soccer fields, green spaces, baseball diamonds, playgrounds, parking, bus lanes, drop off/pick up areas. School boards are funded per student enrollment. Now if you ask me if I think school board administration budgets are bloated and we spend to much on that, then yes.
Hey great lets just look at the amount a province spends and not the results. I know Alberta teachers are looking for a new deal and are offered 3% per year over 4 years and looks like they will reject it Here is an issue I think you and I agree on . Alberta has two main school boards Catholic and Public . This is nuts the government should only fund public education . There is
results of what ?
if you think there isn’t a problem in school funding in Alberta is fine .
The richest province per capita gives the least , by far ….
And it’s Fraser freakin institute that tell you so .
I just think it’s pathetic but they can do w.e they want .
I was just contradicting a bit shifty opinion that I bolded .
Ps: Quebec as well got many systems and the private school as well that gets some funding too shrug .
Nothing special under the sun there .
Like most leftist you think all problems can be solved by throwing government money at it.
Albertians are so well off we don't need to increase taxes to fund schools. Parents are expected to pay for busing, lunchtime supervision, to my knowledge there is no free lunch programs, etc. Which I doubt is factored in to your provincial funding.
You pay for lunchtime supervision? wtf?
Like most leftist you think all problems can be solved by throwing government money at it.
Albertians are so well off we don't need to increase taxes to fund schools. Parents are expected to pay for busing, lunchtime supervision, to my knowledge there is no free lunch programs, etc. Which I doubt is factored in to your provincial funding.
nah i think being at the bottom of fundings makes no sense when you say alberta cares about their pre college education shrug.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ca...
bit old numbers from 2023 but when you think laberta got 15% of gdp in canada and NFL got around 1%, and still alberta is below NFL, its pretty funny.
but hey man, i dont care, no wonders they got some really bizarre idea about science over there...
Pretty sure Alberta ranks very high in the world for education while Quebec is ranked worst in Canada.
nah
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/commenta...
As discussed in my latest study, the PISA results expand this picture by comparing the provinces with countries around the world. In the PISA results, Quebec’s math performance is not only the best in Canada, it’s among the very best in the world.
and we arent even talking about universities...
Anyway, I've spent enough time on this. I get it, the left wing university prof doesn't think college is a scam. We are facing a huge skilled labor shortage, there's a reason for that.
No, Alberta is probably the one place where anything but college isn't looked down on.
The lie of the West. Hilarious to see you repeat this nonsense.
