The murder of Charlie Kirk

i think being able to find examples of him being super racist and super not racist is pretty unimportant to the grand evaluation of if he was a racist. He was certainly willing to be a racist and that’s the only distinction that matters

No I don’t think he was into eugenics or whatever if that matter

Ok ???

Where did she say Israel is responsible for the assassination? Which btw if anybody says that …that’s not anti-Jewish just like saying Saudi Arabia is responsible for 9/11 is not anti-Muslim. Come on now

Yay the Young Turks not being radical left is a great thing for the county btw… I guess you could see that as you said nothing in response to those points.

he was only a racist according to leftist definition, not normal definitions. So yes for you, not for normal people

You said calling him "openly racist" was a normal criticism and proceeded to miserably fail at providing any proof Charlie was a racist.

But you defend someone publicly saying he's open racist, then try to prove to me why people say he's racist. Agreed, you shouldn't have to watch 2000 hours of video. Which why people should probably stop labelling everyone on the right racist.

Am I supposed to read all 2000 posts you made in the thread? You defended someone that called him an open racist by trying to post examples of Charlie being racist.

Na man, racism has a very basic and straightforward definition. Just saying “if a pilot is black it makes me question if they are capable” is abject racism.

There is no coming back from that. It’s like calling all Italians hairy guineas

I said calling him an open racist was within bounds of acceptable criticism and that many normal people would have that reaction reading his work. Meanwhile you said the guy said he had no sympathy for Charlie Kirk and no one should, which was an outright lie. It’s funny how loose and slippery you are with your analysis of other people’s positions while providing endless nuance to Charlie.

But ok, people should be fired from their jobs for having the position that Charlie Kirk was a racist. lmao The right wing is an absolute joke.

You obviously got schooled on all the bullshit you pushed about the guy saying Charlie deserved to die or that he’s happy he’s dead or that he has no sympathy for him, so you have to fall back on “well he didn’t prove Charlie was a racist so he should be fired”

Absolute cult of kirk behavior.

No it isn't, not even under leftist definitions. If you know black people are accepted as pilot even with lower IQ and test results, which is a fact, then questioning their capabilities is the only possible rational reaction.

If schools and companies had programs to take in italians *when they are objectively inferior to others in tests* then ofc any italian in a high position would create doubts

If you remove affirmative action than you never question the pilot skills.

But the left will keep on calling the right Nazis, racists and the rest and lets not forget Jan 6 th the most violent day in history well other than any weekend in Chicago

There is no affirmative action for pilot certification; you question the piloting skills of black people because you're a racist jizz mopper.

Where do you work Trolly? Shifty wants you to lose your job.

I agree. This is pure capitulation from Disney. Very disheartening, but after seeing what BigLaw did, I'm not shocked.

Those companies have been looking for an excuse to cut those cost centers for a while. Those shows don't make money anymore, and they had them *as an explicit subsidy for the political left in the past* .

This isn't capitulation, this is "oh we are so sorry, we can finally cut this trash we were using to buy political favours on the left which was costing us a lot"

I understand all power centers of the left collapsing might feel bad for... people on the left. But after what you guys did you had to expect someone would come to use the power of the state in full to try to restore some vague resemblance of fairness. The totalitarian, suffocating, obscene environment the stranglehold of leftism on all cultural institutions created had to necessarily generate some sort of opposition.

And companies aren't loyal to anyone, other than their bottom line. Leftists maybe forgot the USA were also capitalistic. You thought big tech and the media were ACTUALLY your friends? lol. They were sucking leftist dicks for decades because you controlled all levers of power and threatened them. Now you don't anymore and they can go back to be free

I don't know anything about the economics of The Jimmy Kimmel show. I have never watched a single episode from beginning to end.

Disney has no obligation to keep a financially non-viable show on the air, but if you are correct that the primary motivation was financial and that the stated reason was pretextual and a political freebie for Trump, then Disney's behavior is even more spineless than I thought it was.

LOL at characterizing the Jimmy Kimmel show as a power center of the left.

This is indeed not a fact

At what point do you take the IQ test to become a pilot Luci?

they probably looking for any reason to get out from whatever contract they have with him (which I obvs don't know). Colbert got canned. These late nite hosts make a ton and just LOSE money for the network. No one watches them.

the discussion happened when Colbert show was canceled.

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hough the analyst is bound by non-disclosure agreements from sharing any proprietary network research data, using blended Nielsen ratings, ad pricing estimates, and reported historical production costs for The Late Show, The Tonight Show, and Jimmy Kimmel Live!, they built a hypothetical but (based on their experience) realistic model that lays bare the harsh economic realities faced by the average 11:35pm talk show. Their conclusion: 2022 was the last year most (if not all) of the traditional network late-night television shows likely turned a profit.

https://latenighter.com/features/analyst...

normal people don't watch that **** anymore

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By 2018 the writing was on the wall that the time period that was once a cash cow was in free fall. According to one frequently cited report from the advertising data firm Guideline, brands spent $439 million advertising on network late-night television that year. By 2024, that number had been cut in half.

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Another problem unique to the time period: late-night talk shows have almost no library value

“This isn’t about Colbert, or Fallon, or Kimmel,” the analyst told LateNighter. “The platform economics have changed across the board. It’s like trying to sell newspapers in 2009.”

but then they can't cry fascism!!!

I am more that a little unsettled by the overall climate right now. Although I believe my opinions are well within what should be tolerated in a free society, purely as a matter of self-interest, I am very close to going entirely silent on politics on the internet. I have been silent under my own name for many years now. I am rapidly approaching a time when I will no longer will be willing to participate even on an "anonymous" basis on sites like 2+2.

I say that even though I freely acknowledge that I am entirely inconsequential in the grand scheme.

Michele Obama graduated with honors from Princeton and Brown Jackson graduated with honors from Harvard Law. The fact that Kirk who was pretty dumb and couldn't pass community college and you, who couldn't properly spell "here" and "you're" in that post feel that they were taking someone's spot is the standard naked racism of the low achieving, low performing cultural conservative.

It's about as convincing as you and Charlie Kirk telling us the two women who won Fields Medals took them away from men because they mentioned how they benefited from programs that mentored women in math. The standard excuse is people like Charlie Kirk or you are not racist, just really dumb but I don't think there is a minimum intelligence required to be racist. I find pretty much all racists to be like you and Kirk

The ATP written test is g-loaded (ie it works as a decent proxy of IQ tests) and if you accept minority people who got 70-80% there over non minorities who got 85+++... because you have to fulfill racial or gender quotas...

I have never watched late night talk shows. As I said, if the reason was actually financial, then Disney's willingness to make it look like a capitulation to political pressure is the worst form of spinelessness.

mainstream media were (one of) the power center.