The murder of Charlie Kirk
The murder of Charlie Kirk
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The murder of Charlie Kirk

Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?

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10 September 2025 at 06:58 PM
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I’m all about free speech, but

the thing about whatever you say before "but" doesn't count, yeah

no, you absolutely aren't for free speech


by lozen m

If you remove affirmative action than you never question the pilot skills.

What world are you living in? Answer me honestly. Deep down you know you are smarter than Obama, don't you? If you both sat down to take the same IQ test, and he beat you, which sure as I am typing this he would, you would think he got lucky. And you would think this if he beat you by multiple standard deviations 20 times in a row.

Racist stereotypes are very much ingrained and they will persist whether AA is banned or tripled. In America slavery was justified on the basis on innate inferiority of the enslaved. In other places, including the Caribbean largely, it was justified under pretty much "because we can". America was harmed by it's own ideological aspirations. It said everyone had liberty and rights, but it needed black forced labor to kick start. So it developed an entire doctrine around black inferiority in order to justify the exception to the new ideological aspiration. Even after slavery was gone, the doctrine remained. Why wouldn't it?

by lozen m

But the left will keep on calling the right Nazis, racists and the rest and lets not forget Jan 6 th the most violent day in history well other than any weekend in Chicago

In Gaza today, and for the last few years, white Europeans cos playing as Semitic people have been mass murdering Palestinians for no true crime, just for being born somewhere those cos playing Europeans didn't want them to be. They are supported by millions of other white people in this country. You are telling me white people aren't violent when their genocides are being live streamed.


by chezlaw m

I suspect it's far more about the 'would you have assassinated hitler' idea

Which is at the extreme end of why language and tone matter.

Also a part of consequentialist ethics

I don't know the ratio but yeah this looks like a stop Hitler motive.

The overall motive matters too. If this was mainly left or right motivated, it could be to spark something. But that doesn't really apply to the trans motive. Doubt that community is looking to kick off a violent showdown.


by Dunyain m

I would not presume any woman or minority lawyer would be able to do 5th grade math until they demonstrated they could. Whether they would admit it or not in polite society, most people probably feel this way. An unfortunate byproduct of decades of affirmative action. That being said, whether or not Jackson can do 5th grade math (I have seen nothing to suggest she can), she

I’d say the skills it takes to do well on an LSAT test make me highly confident that female and black lawyers can do 5th grade math…

(I am against affirmative action but this is taking it way too far)


by checkraisdraw m

I’d say the skills it takes to do well on an LSAT test make me highly confident that female and black lawyers can do 5th grade math…

(I am against affirmative action but this is taking it way too far)

You have knowledge Jackson did well on the LSAT?

That being said, I wouldn't even assume any given judge was a lawyer or had ever taken the LSAT. Many aren't and haven't.


by Dunyain m

You have knowledge Jackson did well on the LSAT?

That being said, I wouldn't even assume any given judge was a lawyer or had ever taken the LSAT. Many aren't and haven't.

Every judge in the USA was a lawyer first. Because it’s a requirement.

Hi! Hello! Welcome to earth!


by Crossnerd m

Every judge in the USA was a lawyer first. Because it’s a requirement.

Hi! Hello! Welcome to earth!

It's not a requirement for some state and local judges who are elected.


by Crossnerd m

Every judge in the USA was a lawyer first. Because it’s a requirement.

Hi! Hello! Welcome to earth!

Actually this isn't true. You dont consume right wing media so aren't aware. But right wing media actually makes a point to point out when a leftist judge that is in the news isn't a lawyer. This was actually in right wing news recently because the guy who killed the Ukrainian girl on a bus had been recently released after committing some crime by a (black female) judge who wasn't a lawyer, despite a tremendously long record of violent crime and mental instability.


It turns out that even Supreme Court justices don't have to be trained in the law, but every one ever appointed has been.

Source: Supreme Court of the United States (.gov) https://share.google/NNm8y2sGo74K3znQH


by Dunyain m

Actually this isn't true. You dont consume right wing media so aren't aware. But right wing media actually makes a point to point out when a leftist judge that is in the news isn't a lawyer. This was actually in right wing news recently because the guy who killed the Ukrainian girl on a bus had been recently released after committing some crime by a (black female)

Teresa Stokes has a JD and she’s just a magistrate


by Luciom m

The ATP written test is g-loaded (ie it works as a decent proxy of IQ tests) and if you accept minority people who got 70-80% there over non minorities who got 85+++... because you have to fulfill racial or gender quotas...

... then that's not fair in a meritocratic sense. But that's only one kind of fairness. Siblings vary on average by about an SD, yet everything else being equal they're given equal opportunities by their parents because that's the fair thing to do. Might not be the most efficient allocution of resources but we make those qualitative/quantitative trade offs everyday. It's like with reparations. Even if it's not feasible, in a quality of life sense we could still decide to give AAs $1M each even if we didn't think they deserved it in a financial sense. Those are qualitative choices that aren't right or wrong but rather the will of the majority in our system.


by Dunyain m

I would not presume any woman or minority lawyer would be able to do 5th grade math until they demonstrated they could. Whether they would admit it or not in polite society, most people probably feel this way. An unfortunate byproduct of decades of affirmative action.

You feeling this way does not equal most people feeling this way. This attitude is an unfortunate byproduct of being told what to think.


For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure Donald Trump can't do 5th grade math. He definitely can't if they're learning percentages by then.


by lozen m

Hear is what he exactly said

So if you tell us that your an affirmative action pick that means you were selected because of your race not just based on your SAT scores . So in reality you stole a persons spot more likely if it was Harvard an asian person .

I will agree his choice of words you do not have the brain power is stupid

i mean he talked everyday if this is the best they got maybe i was wrong about mr kirk


by Dunyain m

I would not presume any woman or minority lawyer would be able to do 5th grade math until they demonstrated they could. Whether they would admit it or not in polite society, most people probably feel this way. An unfortunate byproduct of decades of affirmative action.

She graduated magna cum laude from Harvard undergrad, and then cum laude from Harvard law. (Grading in the latter was entirely blind during her time and probably still is today.) I think that we can safely assume that she wasn't some sort of second rate student who was admitted despite an inability to compete against her schoolmates.

I don't how many lawyers I have met who went went to good law schools and then worked at big firms -- probably thousands. There is not a single one who I would expect to struggle with fifth grade math.


by Dunyain m

That being said, I wouldn't even assume any given judge was a lawyer or had ever taken the LSAT. Many aren't and haven't.

Can you please identify a single judge in the federal judiciary who is not a lawyer?


by Shifty86 m

Yes, even if Charlie Kirk was racist (he's wasn't)

Not familiar with Kirk's stuff so I couldn't say either way. As a litmus test, though, is Trump racist or not?

by TheKnight00 m

And again Tucker Carlson reportedly is worth 100 million. Candace Owens husband is worth 300 million. Whatever business opportunity you think they stand to gain on a YouTube platform is minuscule compared to what they already have in terms of wealth.

Let me guess... you were of those unitards that said Elon has a half-trillion dollars so he couldn't possibly have any financial incentive in inserting himself in government?

Also, lol at Lucy's theory that cutthroat billion-dollar corporations all of a sudden need a fall guy to be cutthroat corporations now. Cute.


But can you guys beat .5/1 online poker? what good is 5th math.


by Didace m

For the same reason I'd find it weird if someone called their partner "snookie-yum-yums" or "honey-lambkins".

But folks who love each other often have idiosyncratic 'terms of endearment.'

The phrase itself might seem prima facie 'weird', but in context it's just an endearing term they use for each other.


by Shifty86 m

He didn't say that though....

Charlie Kirk's haters literally don't care what he actually said. They'll lie to further their agenda.

Even in those rare cases when they quote him correctly, they don't put it in the correct context.

Like the Right does this all the time as well ofc. When congress was voting on Obamacare , righties continually (mis)quoted Nancy Pelosi as saying something like, "you can read the bill after we vote on it."


by coordi m

Yes he did. Not verbatim but closer to verbatim than you would admit

Could you please 'Verbatim It' for us, along with the context? Thanks.


by Luciom m

It was women who *explicitly* said there were where they are because because of positive discrimination

You keep forgetting that the Leftist Mob of Peabrains (trademark pending) doesn't care about context.

Citing the context would ruin the Official Narrative that Kirk is racist.

Arguing with these [strike]dishonest clowns[/strike] folks is a fool's errand.*

*In my humble opinion, of course!


by checkraisdraw m

Doesn’t medicine usually count survival rate with relative risk? In which case you can have a relative risk twice as high potentially. Idk seemed like a really pedantic dunning krueger article. But I agree her reasoning in that instance was spotty.

Survival rates are survival rates. If the claim was using a black physician halved the risks, she could have... written that. It's not pedantic because it means she took the most absurd amicus brief in favor of her preconceived thesis and didn't even check the claims with a basic smell test, reported them verbatim, no one in her team spotted the absurd insanity, and that's about it.

OR, she knew absolutely well how outrageously insane that claim was but she wrote it anyway


by coordi m

Na man, racism has a very basic and straightforward definition. Just saying β€œif a pilot is black it makes me question if they are capable” is abject racism.

There is no coming back from that. It’s like calling all Italians hairy guineas

No, it isn't 'abject racism' IN CONTEXT.


by Rococo m

You should be criticizing this as an example of inexcusably sloppy writing rather than statistical illiteracy. I would bet my life that she understands the fifth grade math.

Are probabilities taught in 5th grade in the USA?

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