The murder of Charlie Kirk
The murder of Charlie Kirk
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The murder of Charlie Kirk

Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?

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10 September 2025 at 06:58 PM
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we have no reason to believe Rittenhouse pointed guns to people without a reason


by Luciom m

"brandishing" a weapon is legal in Wisconsin so if some dumb mother****ers read it as provocation, that's their problem.Wisconsin is real america, a full open carry state.btw you are in your rights even if you go there to "look for someone to kill" as long as you only shoot when you are legally permitted to (like when communists subhumans attack you).if you hate American laws a

I just hate people who travel for several hours hoping for an excuse to kill.


by chillrob m

I just hate people who travel for several hours hoping for an excuse to kill.

he traveled to try to help the victims of the communist rioters violence.

if we had 50k Rittenhouses back then things would have been better. more dead communists, less damage to decent real people.

he did what he di because the state failed at it's more important role: secure the safety of normal innocent people against the violence of subhuman trash


by checkraisdraw m

What do you mean by β€œbrandishing a weapon”. If you just mean having a weapon out, that’s legal in wisconsin. If you mean he pointed the weapon at someone unprovoked in an unlawful way, that just didn’t happen.As for why he was there, he made off the cuff comments that made him look bad in the media, but he also had private conversations about why he was there, which came out in

That wasn't his community. Do you truly think he didn't drive a few hours hoping for an excuse to kill someone?

This was nothing like Koreans protecting their own businesses.

This was a stupid privileged white kid with a gun fetish who loved the idea of shooting people, particularly black people. He should have gotten the death penalty (or worse, honestly).


by Luciom m

we have no reason to believe Rittenhouse pointed guns to people without a reason

Yes I agree and said as much.

What do you mean by β€œbrandishing a weapon”. If you just mean having a weapon out, that’s legal in wisconsin. If you mean he pointed the weapon at someone unprovoked in an unlawful way, that just didn’t happen.


by Luciom m

being in that riot was proof enough they deserved death btw. every participant deserve death, the only thing you can blame Rittenhouse for , is not having killed more people

He was definitely more deserving of death. We don't need teenagers roaming multi-state areas looking to cosplay Batman.


by Luciom m

he traveled to try to help the victims of the communist rioters violence.

if we had 50k Rittenhouses back then things would have been better. more dead communists, less damage to decent real people.

he did what he di because the state failed at it's more important role: secure the safety of normal innocent people against the violence of subhuman trash

By that logic, you must think it would be admirable for someone to assassinate president Trump, as he is constantly using the violence of the state to harm innocent people.


by chillrob m

He was definitely more deserving of death. We don't need teenagers roaming multi-state areas looking to cosplay Batman.

we need every able body person in every western country to take up arms and defend our countries given law enforcement abdicated it's role. until law enforcement doesn't shuts down all violent episodes with unlimited violence killing every enemy of the state who tries to riot against the population that's exactly what we need.

we are living in a period in time where law enforcement refuses to do it's very basic job: annihilate all people who intend illegal harm and violence on others.

until that's the case, all civilians should take up weapons when it's legal to do so and do what law enforcement traitors refuse to do


by geezerchess m

I think Trump, Republicans and Democrats are all inexcusable.

I'd be astonished if there are more than half-dozen Congresspeople who sincerely care one whit about the welfare of their constituents.

Ty. Someone with a free thinking brain.


by chillrob m

That wasn't his community. Do you truly think he didn't drive a few hours hoping for an excuse to kill someone?

This was nothing like Koreans protecting their own businesses.

This was a stupid privileged white kid with a gun fetish who loved the idea of shooting people, particularly black people. He should have gotten the death penalty (or worse, honestly).

if you are American, every ****ing Place in the USA is your community. that's what being a citizen means.

if you aren't willing to risk your life to defend rights in another area of the country are you even a real citizen?


Personally, I would be willing to risk my life to protect something extremely important to the country.

I would not be willing to kill anyone based on my possibly flawed opinion of what was going on.

I rather doubt you routinely patrol the streets of your city and surrounding area looking to enforce justice and protect the innocent when the police aren't doing their job.

If you actually do that, then you are, by your own definition, a real citizen. If you don't, you are a hypocrite. Or maybe just a pussy?


I am not a hero and given we are governed by communists (actually here in Italy to be precise, we have unelected communist judges that decide if you go to jail or not, even if for the first time in 50+ years the government is moderately to the right), I am not going to risk imprisonment as a father of 2 even if I did right, because my family is dramatically more important than everything else and I have to provide to it.

now that's why a childless teen is a hero if he is going to risk getting wrong judge (or jury in the USA) and losing his life because he did what was moral and legal.

he is a hero because he does what's desperately needed from everyone of us, but what even people agreeing with him most often won't do because of self interest.

but you don't know how many times I knew that if I hadnt kids I would have become some sort of actual radical willing to do everything


by chillrob m

That wasn't his community. Do you truly think he didn't drive a few hours hoping for an excuse to kill someone?

This was nothing like Koreans protecting their own businesses.

This was a stupid privileged white kid with a gun fetish who loved the idea of shooting people, particularly black people. He should have gotten the death penalty (or worse, honestly).

He worked there, had friends there, his dad lived there ffs and his friends asked a local business owner if they could protect his property because another one of his businesses had burned down. The car dealership owner claimed he never let him defend the property, but that wasn’t found to be credible by the jury because he was pictured with them and let them stay on the property freely. You decide if he was trying to cover his ass from civil liability and racism accusations.

By the way he did not go there to wield a gun, his friend asked him to join him. He went to be a medic after he saw some posts on facebook.

You’ve been hanging around too many seattle antifa people I fear. They spread lies for fun, so just ignore what they say and look it up yourself.


by chillrob m

Personally, I would be willing to risk my life to protect something extremely important to the country.I would not be willing to kill anyone based on my possibly flawed opinion of what was going on.I rather doubt you routinely patrol the streets of your city and surrounding area looking to enforce justice and protect the innocent when the police aren't doing their job.If you ac

Then by your own lights you would abhor every single one of those vile lunatics that literally burned down businesses. Did you know that Rosenbaum threatened Kyle Rittenhouse that he would hurt him if he ever saw him alone? And when he did have the opportunity he ran after him trying to make good on his promise? Like this is such a weird hill that liberals chose to die on.


by checkraisdraw m

He worked there, had friends there, his dad lived there ffs and his friends asked a local business owner if they could protect his property because another one of his businesses had burned down. The car dealership owner claimed he never let him defend the property, but that wasn’t found to be credible by the jury because he was pictured with them and let them stay on the proper

You're saying that Kyle went there to be a medic, carrying his own gun, but only was there because his friend invited him?

Makes no sense to me.

I am relying on memory of the news here, not of the accounts of anyone in particular, but I remember thinking it was crazy to believe he should have been acquitted based on self-defense.
The fact that he traveled looking for trouble is enough for me.


by checkraisdraw m

Then by your own lights you would abhor every single one of those vile lunatics that literally burned down businesses. Did you know that Rosenbaum threatened Kyle Rittenhouse that he would hurt him if he ever saw him alone? And when he did have the opportunity he ran after him trying to make good on his promise? Like this is such a weird hill that liberals chose to die on.

As I have said before, I think the rioting was wrong, but I don't approve of vigilante justice. He went looking for trouble, found it, and then cried self-defense, because he was actually a pussy, not a hero.

And you know I'm not a liberal.


by chillrob m

You're saying that Kyle went there to be a medic, carrying his own gun, but only was there because his friend invited him?Makes no sense to me.I am relying on memory of the news here, not of the accounts of anyone in particular, but I remember thinking it was crazy to believe he should have been acquitted based on self-defense.The fact that he traveled looking for trouble is en

He didn’t bring a gun to Kenosha dude. The gun was already there because he had strong ties to the community and his friend had purchased it for him for target practice well before any riots happened.

Our ruling

A viral image claimed that Rittenhouse’s mother "drove him across state lines and dropped him off in the middle of a riot armed with an assault rifle" in Kenosha.

There is no evidence that Rittenhouse’s mother took him to Kenosha.

The evidence is that Rittenhouse went on his own from his Illinois home to Kenosha, and that he retrieved the rifle he used in the shootings, which had been purchased by his friend, from the Kenosha home of the friend’s stepfather.

We rate the statement False.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/20...


by chillrob m

As I have said before, I think the rioting was wrong, but I don't approve of vigilante justice. He went looking for trouble, found it, and then cried self-defense, because he was actually a pussy, not a hero.

Cried self-defense? He defended himself. There was no crying self-defense, that was just what happened.

And you know I'm not a liberal.

Liberals are generally the ones that spread the misinformation about him. But I could also blame it on socialists and anarchists too.


by Luciom m

in a normal decent country Rittenhouse would have stayed home because the full power of the state fueled by taxpayers would have been used to kill each and every one of the monsters that rioted and attempted to assassinate Rittenhouse. that's the basic lesson of that story. that you fail as a country if those riots aren't answered with infinite state violence to kill every part

I’m thinking jail would suffice. At the end of the day, people have grievances and protest the government either to get it to stop doing something or to start doing something it’s not. When the government doesn’t respond appropriately, tempers boil. And while the focus has been on BLM and police protests, there’s nothing stopping the right from organizing and protesting for more police, which is exactly what a lot of us in the suburbs would do if violent crime spiked.

The problem isn’t the people on the other side exploiting that edge; it’s the government. Unlike a lot of countries, the U.S. doesn’t have a crime problem it can’t handle. It’s the justice system and the consequences of vigilantism that keep gangs from being hunted down by the much larger civilian population. The frustration comes when we hand over our natural right to protect our community to the government and it fails to do what we know we could do without them. But again, the problem is with the government. It’s like when we find out a company is bribing a politician... sure we penalize the company but it’s the politician we most want to hang.


by checkraisdraw m

Cried self-defense? He defended himself. There was no crying self-defense, that was just what happened.

Liberals are generally the ones that spread the misinformation about him. But I could also blame it on socialists and anarchists too.

I'm actually a law and order guy who doesn't like vigilantism except when I go to a Batman movie. Assuming everything you say is correct, I think he should have been convicted. Even if he had a loaded gun point-blank pointed at his head when he took his shot.


by TheKnight00 m

Well, that’s nothing compared to the many brutal violent BLM riots in the summer of 2020. Upwards of 20 people killed many injured billions of dollars worth of damage. This is what the left-wing media does they keep on bringing up January 6, which is literally a drop in the water compared to the BLM riots which saw numerous attacks on government institutions btw.Of course there

Good Lord. Please enroll in a remedial English class.

by hole in wan m

If I see a video of a child rapist attacking Rittenhouse and getting lit up like a Christmas tree, I give Kyle a nod for the street justice

Unless that child rapist is named Donald J Trump, amirite?

by Luciom m

Wisconsin is real america, a full open carry state.

Have you ever even been to Wisconsin or are you just talking out of your ass again based on your shitty Google skills?

Wisconsin is a shithole with nothing to do but drink/drug and doesn't even break the top 30 for gun rights. You could literally throw a dart at a US map blindfolded and hit a state that has friendlier gun laws than Wisconsin.

Open carry is for fukktards, and "real America" gun states are those that allow you to carry the gun concealed or in the open without requiring a permit in either case.

As for Rittenhouse, he's a fukktard and had no business being there to cosplay as military and he's a garbage human being (especially now that his job is grifting off the killings), but the shootings were in self-defense.

Anyone who thinks the shootings were not in self-defense is either a) letting emotions interfere with logic, or b) just doesn't understand how self-defense works and refuses to learn (see option a).

That said, his attackers were attacking him because they were told there was a random guy shooting, so they were actually acting in good faith trying to stop what they believed was a mass shooter.

Also, it doesn't matter if he was a legal gun owner or not. You still have the right to self-defense even if you don't have the right to own the weapon that you used in self-defense. The prohibited possessor would likely be charged with illegal possession of a firearm but would not lose a self-defense claim just because he shouldn't have been in possession to begin with.


by chillrob m

That wasn't his community. Do you truly think he didn't drive a few hours hoping for an excuse to kill someone?

This was nothing like Koreans protecting their own businesses.

This was a stupid privileged white kid with a gun fetish who loved the idea of shooting people, particularly black people. He should have gotten the death penalty (or worse, honestly).

He was dumb for putting himself into that position. The only reason he killed somebody is because they were attacking him. I don't think he had the intention of killing anybody. This is why I say to both sides, stay home. Anybody who goes to a protest has to know things can go bad quickly. Stop putting yourselves into these situations. In the case of Rit this was a riot which was allowed to escalate. How the Summer of Love was even a thing is beyond me.


Here's something no one else says out loud. Everyone who carries a gun to anything other than a hunting trip is hoping that they one day will have an excuse for shooting someone.

Kyle was certainly one of them; of that I have absolutely no doubt. Maybe he wouldn't have actually shot anyone if he hadn't had a weapon pulled on him. But he was definitely hoping to get the chance, and that's what he was looking to do when he went there. That "medic" BS is laughable. Someone who went in the hopes of saving lives wouldn't have brought a weapon, even with someone else's encouragement.


by chillrob m

Here's something no one else says out loud. Everyone who carries a gun to anything other than a hunting trip is hoping that they one day will have an excuse for shooting someone.

That's the dumbest thing you've ever said.

by chillrob m

Kyle was certainly one of them; of that I have absolutely no doubt. Maybe he wouldn't have actually shot anyone if he hadn't had a weapon pulled on him. But he was definitely hoping to get the chance, and that's what he was looking to do when he went there. That "medic" BS is laughable. Someone who went in the hopes of saving lives wouldn't have brought a weapon, even with som

An argument can be made that Kyle wanted to have a reason to smoke someone just based on his recordings before the incident even happened. However, mindreading isn't legally recognized, so we have to go based on the evidence presented in court.


by chillrob m

Sure, race is made up, but he still defined some people by race when it was convenient.

It is correct that race is made up. It was made up by people like Charlie Kirk so they could use it as an excuse to enslave others.

What if I tell you in order to be the best at lhe, you need to realize what he is saying is true? btw about the racist thing. I don't really mean it I like to f.cuk w liberal they seem to get really shy away from speaking their mind when I bring up the race card since they love to call their own white for being racist so much.

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