Bomb pot, how do I play a flopped wheel?

I don’t play bomb pots all that much but I think the correct strategy is to check range from OOP. Your hand can check/call or check/raise depending on the action.

single board I assume? donk small, your line should be donk donk donk.

x/r or lead large. You want to build to pot. Not really a donk as no preflop raiser.

I lead, and pretty chunky. Plenty of hands will call, and if 76 is out there I'd like to know ASAP.

I don't know if hero can get away from this. There could be 76 and 62, but hero also has the nut flush draw.

I didn't really think this one through, I just led out with a $15 bet on the flop into the pot of $120.

V1 in UTG with a stack of $750 makes it $75.

V2 in UTG+1 with a stack of $1125 makes it $400.

Folds back to me.

H???

Rip it in? If we're behind, we're still live. 3 ways we have minimum ~32% I think. 2 ways we can drop to 40% against 76 / 62 / 44 / 55 but if we rip and it goes HU we have the overlay to make it profitable.

Flop: I check. My plan is to draw to the nuts as cheaply as possible if someone bets, and if it checks through I can start building the pot on many turn and river cards (diamonds + any turn 8 through K). It’s also difficult to get three streets of value here (outside of flush-over-flush scenarios), so I prefer to realize equity and focus on turn/river play.

As played: I fold. Someone having a higher straight occurs around 12.5% of the time, and this looks like one of those spots.

I haven’t folded a straight flush draw since 2015.

In retrospect, I think I misplayed this. I was so thrilled to see this flop, I didn’t stop to think it through. But this is a non-nut hand multiway with pretty deep stacks, so I should be playing this passively, or at least cautiously.

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I'm guessing his range is 76, 62, A2, Sets. Perhaps 2p and combo draws at a lower percentage.

With the nut flush draw we have more than enough equity, jam.

I mean these two cards would be pretty strong if everyone else had four cards, although I'd be much less happy about the flop action in PLO. Also with 4bb each in preflop, max stack is only 10 SPR.

Without great reads I don't see how we do anything other than keep raising for value, and any size but all in would be weird.

I understand the action went bet/raise/raise ... but your initial bet doesn't look strong, and so at least the first raise doesn't have to be that strong. Then there's a lot of great/strong looking hands that we are crushing. Yeh, someone can still have 76 but it's _so_ much less likely in NLHE.

OP - the wheel with NFD is way different than a naked wheel.

Ripping it all day and feeling fine. Wheel with no NFD would be a tough spot.

Even if there hands were face up you had correct odds to call.

Like werebeer said if you rip it, you would have won because All-In always wins. You let v2 rip it instead, so he got the karma.

Seriously, this is like having KK against AA - there’s nothing you can do in this unlikely poker hand. Funny how the straight flush draw can disappoint us so often.

I honestly don’t get why so many users are so excited to continue after the $400 raise. We have invested 7bb, our straight is definitely behind (or in other words irrelevant), and we don’t know if V1 punts his stack in to smooth the odds.

We jump from 7bb invested to more than 200bb invested super quickly, while we are holding a FD vs a flopped straight (V2 screams he has a straight imho).

Personally, I am folding here. If I am not folding, I think hero played it perfectly, as calling $400 makes it more likely that V1 stays in the hand. Folding > Calling > Shove (imho).

Baseline math in this scenario with the given holdings:
• You’d be investing $1,125 to win a $3,120 pot → need 36% equity.
• A2dd has about 30% equity.

If V1 folds it looks way worse.

I'll leave it at two points:

1. It's a NLHE bomb pot, we have the 3rd nuts and a redraw to the nuts. Honestly not sure how many people understand how strong our hand is, like saying it's KK vs. AA preflop is under selling it.

2. V1, behind us, shipped 750 with 8 high.

Maybe we can try to play it differently if V2 shows his hand.

There’s a side pot. We never need more than 33.33% equity in a 3 way all in.

1. No we don't have nut redraw. 5d6d is open ended to the nuts (obv. we block lower with 2d but he doesn't know this.) 6d7d is gutshot to nuts (and we get crushed if that nut draw hits). And with 2 to come, could come 5d6d so just a 7d is a nut draw much less the 8d7d for the ultimate nuts. And then there is 7d5d. So we are far from drawing to the nuts.

2. But it was also one of the several draws (runner runner 5d7d) to the true nuts. plus gutshot to bigger straight and a flush draw they might be including as outs (obv. wasn't but they don't know that).

3. Place I play has similar bomb pot set up but only on dealer change. It is a 1/3 game with a $10 pre single board, hi only NL bomb pot. (I hate this set up but they do it to keep the bp BBJP eligible).

But it illustrates couple of issues with BP's that make them fun and dangerous. Old sayings. 'Be careful in bloated pots, esp. multiway' and 'Never go broke in a limp pot w/o holding current nuts or good draw to such'. This game meets both of those warnings and we only have 5 outs to the nuts (even just 8 if we assume no other SF draws) but even if we hit non-5d d on turn we have to dodge board pairing on river.

While we do hold a draw to the nuts so long as no 5,6 or 7 d comes, I would still proceed very cautious being OOP with dumb end of the straight. I would check flop and think on any flop bet or raise.

As played the flop bet, raise, re-raise is setting off all kinds of warning bells. We are behind hoping of a d not a 6 or 7. Even the 5d on turns gives concerns (no way we get away but still).

IMO the $15 was bad (esp. OOP into $120) but the real mistake was the call of $400 with action behind (from a V already showing real interest in the pot) and only 5 outs to the actual nuts.

I would hope I could x/fold this flop. More likely is a x/call but maybe for less than $400 but who knows how action might have proceeded after a x.