$2-3 NL In position exploit versus loose passive

Fold pre

There is always the difficulty of trusting what the OP sees going on. If the UTG is truly a loose passive, then the raising in the UTG means the villein's range crushes K9s. At a gambly table, hero has little chance of bluffing 3 other players. Therefore, it should be a fold. The problem is that many OP don't know how to characterize players. This could easily be a call or raise if the circumstances were different.

I agree with fold pre-flop, but I could be ok with 3betting this hand. Calling is the worst option. When people talk about ‘bingo’ poker, I think of a hand like this. 5 people with nothing clowning around. You don’t want to join them.

I don’t think most people realize how bad a hand K9 is. As played, I understand the steal feeling, but you likely get called with better. Villain might play KK or QQ this way (loose passive) or have Ax.

A good result here is possible, but that doesn’t mean playing like everyone else is good. Why does the flop check thru when you’re last to act? Everyone checks to you, BET.

As played, I don’t know what you represent on the river. If the clubs came in maybe, but you have nothing against people that gamble. Just seems like a bad move.

Contrary to what most people are saying, I’m calling pre almost always in my 1/2-1/3 games because I can easily get away from hands like weak TP to aggression. I’m mainly playing this hand to overtrip or overflush someone.

I think it’s alright to stab turn given nobody has shown interest in the pot, and most likely nobody has an A.

As played, I don’t think we need to go this big on river.. I’d probably go like $75 and hope he folds his Jx or draw. You have to be ready to get hero called by Jx or even KK/QQ here sometimes since many draws missed.

He has bluff catchers that will be elastic to sizing. We need to bet pot to get those hands to fold.

Do loose players play tight in your games???

in mine loose players open wide from all positions. Small raise size of $12 are weighted towards middling hands not premiums.

That's what loose players do.

He never has an ace here, ever.

Loose-passive players don't open wide from all positions.

Words have meanings.

Preflop seems very loose to me. I often don't even play K9s when it's limped to me on the Button (whether I play it is dependent on how bad the limpers are) but I'm never playing it in a raised pot.

Flop check seems obvious this multiway.

Picking up no real equity and still this multiway at a loose gambooley table, I wouldn't start any bluffs on the turn.

Regarding UTGs range, it is likely underpairs and some whiffed broadway. He doesn't have a slowplayed monster cuz he'd start betting the turn when the flop checked thru / things got drawier. TP and even Jx are unlikely cuz he'd often bet those either on the flop or turn. Whiffed broadway (such as KQ) is folding to any bet size. KK/QQ might hero call anything cuz it really doesn't look like we have an Ace given the flop checkback. Weaker hands like TT/99 will probably fold to any reasonable bet size. So overall, if we're going to bluff (again, dicey at a gamblooey table), I'm not sure there is much reason to go more than 1/2 PSB.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Passive players don't raise much in the UTG.

He is loose passive (not just passive) so when he raises small from UTG, he is wider than just premiums.

Good analysis. I think his call on the turn is either weak showdown value or a draw, so I used the large size to fold out everything, (and also i look quite polarised given i did not bet an Ax flop).

V snap folds.