$2-3 Bid draw against aggro guy

Fold pf. Fold to the first bet.

You missed, he’s blasting, time to fold. Nothing else to do.

Pre is a fold. If you are going to raise, go much bigger. Personally, vs this guy, I raise the flop. As played, just fold the turn and now fold the river.

At a loose gamblooey table with 4 still to react, I'm folding this piece of cheese preflop. Would only barely consider raising if everyone behind was a nit, but even that's probably too loose, imo.

I also just flat the flop. We probably have little FE against this guy and we might not have as many outs as we think we do.

Now that the board pairs (we could literally be drawing dead already but we most certainly don't have as many outs as we think we do) and we're facing a decent bet, I just fold.

We have nothing on the river, right? Are we thinking of making a hero call with A high cuz we're ahead of busted draws (even though we block a huge percentage of those)? I'm assuming we're not planning on shoving in the last $100 in some insane bluff attempt?

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While I'm fine with continuing on the flop, our "big draw" isn't nearly as good as you are making it out to be. Our flush will be an obvious one on a 4-to-a-flush board so our IO suck. Some of those flush outs could actually complete a straight flush where we have horrible RIO. We have no clue if our straight outs are any good (and again poor IO on a 4-to-a-straight and possibly poor RIO). Ditto for whether our Ax outs are any good.

Still, for this sizing against this guy in position, it's probably ok.

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Without more info on V, it feels like raising flop IP might be the cheapest way to see the river. It seems likely all the outs are live, even if the IO are not great. And we should still have some FE; most aggro types pause when you play back at them.

Yes I agree.

I felt that this was my mistake.

In the moment I felt that I was re raised I would be priced in to call it off. but i think it is the most unexploitable play.

The problem with pre is you're going to go multiway and this hands sucks multiway. You can iso this hand where it'll go HU a lot or blinds just fold, but against loose callers I think you need to tighten up. I think the default play is to call BB's bet here on the flop but given the description raising is probably better getting him to fold middling equity hands. As played by the river there's nothing you can do - have to fold. You can have all the full houses yet he's still barreling away - either he has a very strong hand or is playing recklessly and you can get him next time.

This is a fold pre but if you're going to raise, you need to make it something like x4 not x2.5 on this table. I would rather overlimp than x2.5 and I'd fold before I did either.

I fold river.

Only if you make the error of entering pot preflop. But...

1. it is closer to 1/2 pot bet. You did not state rake but it is $25 into about $55+/-

2. your straight draw might be drawing 1/2 dead to a made straight or higher straight draw or flopped flush

3. even you flush has a remote chance of being dead to a flopped straight flush.

4. your bet size (not saying it is wrong just running some math) gave good odds to BB (12 into 31) and esp straddle one (9 into 47) once btn called. So you really can't narrow their range. They could have flopped better straight draws and maybe K flush draw but you won't know and if they did, flush odds hitting drop 25%ish.

best course is to fold pre, give serious thought to betting flop, fold to turn pressure, insta fold river.