PLO50 Double barrell spot?
The two limpers in this hand are maniacs( 68/22/ 15 and 81/25). I c- bet 1/2 pot Multi-way because I have the top set blocker. The 4♠ on the turn seems like a blank, and it also gives me a gutshot. Should I be double-barreling this turn?
PokerStars - C$0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
CO: 104.64 BB (VPIP: 81.25, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 132.62 BB (VPIP: 62.90, PFR: 12.90, 3Bet Preflop: 22.58, Hands: 63)
BB: 145.56 BB (VPIP: 68.49, PFR: 22.27, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 242)
UTG: 73.22 BB (VPIP: 46.69, PFR: 20.62, 3Bet Preflop: 6.05, Hands: 680)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5♥ 6♦ K♥ 8♦
fold, CO calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4.5 BB, fold, BB calls 3.5 BB, CO calls 3.5 BB
Flop: (14 BB, 3 players) J♥ 6♣ K♠
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 6.62 BB, BB calls 6.62 BB, fold
Turn: (27.24 BB, 2 players) 4♠
BB checks, Hero ???
11 Replies
Yes
When given the choice between check and pot, the solver checks non-Top 2 Pair w/o FD on a similar board.However, I don't think population has enough slow plays, so hero likely has the best hand.Is it better to B50 on the turn or check and play rivers?
Think we bet for value/protection - at these stakes there's probably less slowplay and given our flop sizing their range should be wider in theory then a pot.
When given the choice between check and pot, the solver checks non-Top 2 Pair w/o FD on a similar board.However, I don't think population has enough slow plays, so hero likely has the best hand.Is it better to B50 on the turn or check and play rivers?
Solver also doesn’t play against 70 VPIPers that probably are 90% from the BB. I’m betting 75-100% pot here
I prefer checking back the flop against maniacs. Heads up instead of three ways, give us a second bdfldr, make the 5 an A-9, give us a pp instead of 85, and I like betting more. Super rarely getting three streets of value, gives the maniacs some rope. Are we going to grit our teeth and head toward SD if either plays back at us?
As played I would check the turn but feel less confident about it compared to flop. We don't interact with the turn card at all. This seems like a spot where I usually polarize to B100 and check and this hand is too middling to bet, imo.
I prefer checking back the flop against maniacs. Heads up instead of three ways, give us a second bdfldr, Super rarely getting three streets of value, gives the maniacs some rope. Are we going to grit our teeth and head toward SD if either plays back at us?
The top and bottom 2 pairs that I have are definitely a medium strength hand. I most likely should've checked back on the flop. I think I over-c-bet in general.
Sorry, I didn't quite understand this part.
As played I would check the turn but feel less confident about it compared to flop. We don't interact with the turn card at all. This seems like a spot where I usually polarize to B100 and check and this hand is too middling to bet, imo.
That's probably why I should have checked the flop, makes sense to me.
Pf is def the most questionable street, we’re playing with whales tho and it’s a pretty decent hand in that case so I don’t mind it
Flop and turn are both pretty clear bets vs these players in this hand, UNLESS they are cr tons of flops, in which case checking back with no redraws can be correct. Solver still pots the flop 27% and that’s vs other solver bots with much stronger ranges. If you’re gonna get shy now probably should just limp behind or fold pf
I'm suggesting how changes to your hand make me more inclined to cbet flop. For example I'd rather cbet AK86ds or K776ds.
Sorry, but I still don't understand. How would having an Ace or a pocket pair change things? Would the change of cards add blocker or backdoor equity that I should consider?
Sorry, but I still don't understand. How would having an Ace or a pocket pair change things? Would the change of cards add blocker or backdoor equity that I should consider?
Our hand class is already middling. So these features make them slightly better bets than checks. The big card (eg an A) either blocks continues (eg bway draws) or outs to continues. A pp interacts with fewer turn cards, so less playable, but adds a bit of robust equity when called. Makes the combo "weak enough to bet fold." Counterintuitive but works ime.
Our hand class is already middling. So these features make them slightly better bets than checks. The big card (eg an A) either blocks continues (eg bway draws) or outs to continues. A pp interacts with fewer turn cards, so less playable, but adds a bit of robust equity when called. Makes the combo "weak enough to bet fold." Counterintuitive but works ime.
Ok, so there are blocker considerations. I didn't even think about the opponent possibly having a Broadway wrap. Maybe even a bare pair + gutshot like AJTx or with one or two backdoor flush draws? I see how the Ace would give us extra fold equity
Also, it sounds like we do have some backdoor equity with a pp. Are we hoping to turn or maybe river a set with the pocket pairs? I can't think about any robust equity from a pp other than that.
I suppose there is an unblocker effect too with a hand like K776 ds. Let's say if the turn is a 7 ♠ . Our set wouldn't block any OESD draws or wraps that the villains could be willing to continue with. It also wouldn't block any flush draw that the villain may have picked up on the turn. I assume we would also be happy to barrel a set on the turn for the full pot??
