1/3: On the button with a turned royal flush draw

1/3: On the button with a turned royal flush draw

1/3, weekend afternoon, 8-handed.

Villain1 (50yo white male, $2200, 35/10) open-straddles to $6 under the gun. Weakest player on the table and is on a heater.
Villain2 (40yo white male, $400, 70/30) is an extremely spewy gambler who opens to $25 in middle position.
Villain3 (35yo black male, $700, 50/25) is a loose-aggressive player who plays aggressively and authoritatively post-flop, although he plays too many hands pre-flop, and calls in the cutoff.
Hero ($500) calls on the button with QJdd. Villain1 calls.

Flop ($104): Kd 6s 3c

Villains 1, 2, 3 all check, Hero checks behind.

Turn ($104): 10d

Villain1 bets $35, Villain2 calls, Villain3 calls. There is $209 in the pot.

(1) What do you do? Is a raise to say $180 a good move with a shove on a blank card/made draw on the river? Or a call better?
(2) Should H have squeezed pre-flop?

29 September 2025 at 01:17 PM
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Preflop: there's a decent argument for 3b! squeeze here on the BTN with the straddle on. I think it reduces the benefit of position to cap ourselves preflop multi-way against this lineup of Vs. If you get 4b, you can probably sigh/fold given that the 4b range likely dominates us.

Flop: standard

Turn: We have to assume v1 in straddle would 3b his suited aces preflop. I think his turn leads are Kx heavy.

We have 17 outs against Kx, so 37% equity against v1. Raising is a mistake if V1 won't incorrectly fold some weaker Kx combos. The V's with SDs have only 6 good outs against us and we have 23 outs (coinflip) against Tx. Sometimes these Vs have worse FDs than ours too.

I think it's a close decision but I prefer to call and try to make our hand. Our position is a big advantage here. I don't think a river diamond will kill all the action because some will make a straight and some will make a worse flush. Our BTN bet would look bluffy and may get more calls than if we were in earlier position.


I'll admit I often just nitty fold here preflop. The SPR is going to be ~4 against the raiser and ~5 against the rest, which is a pretty poor SPR for this hand. Meanwhile it can make a lotta really good second best hands. Also not in love squeezing at a table where we have no FE. But I'm a giant nit waiting for AA/KK.

Also checking back the flop.

With our stack size I'm not so sure a raise leaves enough behind for the river to have FE, so i think I just shove now. Everyone looks weak as **** and we have a massive amount of outs if called, and meanwhile we credibly rep TT or even a slowplayed 66/33 on this bone dry flop. Pot is also huge relative to our stack and worth going after; I'd be more inclined to just call at a bigger SPR where the risk versus reward isn't as good.

GcluelessNLnoobG


Squeeze against a bunch of spazzy/gambly players pre with an average hand that flops well doesn't seem like a great idea pre or on turn. I call both times.


I like 150 on turn and shove almost all rivers. You have good equity and hard for opponents to call stacks.


I don't squeeze pre with this hand vs these players. Calling in position is fine. Raise the turn -- $150 - $200.


The action is weak with the flop check and small bet on the turn. So raise and shove the river should work often enough. You could be doing it with a made hand, like 2-pair or a set. Low stakes players may be spewy, but they don't semibluff that much, and will not read the strong action as usually a draw.


by Spanishmoon

We have 17 outs against Kx, so 37% equity against v1. Raising is a mistake if V1 won't incorrectly fold some weaker Kx combos. The V's with SDs have only 6 good outs against us and we have 23 outs (coinflip) against Tx. Sometimes these Vs have worse FDs than ours too.

How did you get 17 and 23? I think you’re double counting the Ad and 9d.


Your combo draw can't be that good on the turn, but you have enough FE to make raising a good play.


H elected to call.

The river is a 7d ($349 in the pot).

Villains 1, 2, 3 all check. Hero bets $100. Villain1 min-raises to $200 and Villains 2,3 fold.

What do you do?


by Solomon_Peabody

H elected to call.

The river is a 7d ($349 in the pot).

Villains 1, 2, 3 all check. Hero bets $100. Villain1 min-raises to $200 and Villains 2,3 fold.

What do you do?

Bet more than 100 on the river. As played, call x/r.


This is a 3bet or fold situation in my mind. Without FE it turns into a fold pre-flop. Simply don’t want to play this hand against 3 other players which you probably end up with even with a raise.

To call feels like a play an average player makes & the average player doesn’t win regularly. I guess this is as good a time as any to play fit or fold, but I don’t like it.

As played
1. Everyone checked the flop
2. Turn gave you a straight flush draw

Flop indicates no one has much, unless someone was hoping to x/r - so I’m shoving the turn. This is one of my favorite semi-bluffs you fell into, so I’m going with it whatever the result.

I think what separates my strategy is that I have more respect for the reduction of my chances against multiple opponents. I don’t want to be in there fighting with a marginal hand. I’m just watching this hand, but you have a chance to win or lose it all.


Yeah, preflop and turn are passive low stakes style, but not that bad.

River, you are missing value betting so small. When he mincheckraises, that could be a donk way of playing the nuts. If he has the nuts, he is losing so much value playing it that way. The play doesn't really make sense with any hand. You have 2nd nuts. You are probably beat, but you can't fold at the pot odds. He could have a worse flush that would call a raise, but 3-betting the river is bad.


By river V1's line looks a _lot_ like a random NFD. If you'd bet a more normal size on the river it'd be almost guaranteed, but some chance he's raising worse flushes now (and a tiny chance he has 98/54, and doesn't see the flush or assumes you don't have it).

Still difficult to fold 2nd nuts for 100 into 750 though. On the upside you somehow didn't go broke.

Would guess there's only a small chance that V1 is folding if you shove turn, but who knows.

Every part of the hand seems loose, passive and marginal but likely losing small.


V1 is described as the weakest player at the table so I'm assuming he can way overvalue. Against most I would hate facing a check/raise in this config, but I think (?) we should be going for some more value against this guy and prolly shove? Against certain players I would consider a nitty fold, but I'm not sure we can do that against this guy so calling at minimum.

GcluelessNLnoobG


Well, he either has us beat or he's playing 54s as if it's the nuts.

Folding when getting over 6-1 is obviously out of the question. V's bet could be a probe, because he figures we will raise our better flushes here.

I think we have to go for thin value. I'd probably min-click raise and see what happens. I'm hoping he has a straight or a worse flush and cannot get away from it.


Not deep enough to 3!/fold the river and aren't ahead often enough. Just call and expect to usually be shown the nuts.


You have 15 outs (9 diamonds, 3 Qs, 3 As). That’s ~30% equity vs made hands. Pot odds on a call are excellent. Raising folds nothing better and kills your implied odds. Best play is call, reevaluate river.


by KaciDavey7

You have 15 outs (9 diamonds, 3 Qs, 3 As). That’s ~30% equity vs made hands. Pot odds on a call are excellent. Raising folds nothing better and kills your implied odds. Best play is call, reevaluate river.

How does raising the turn fold nothing better? You have queen high.

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