Why do we trust?
I once overheard a poker room manager talking to a new guy and he said, “Either we like ‘em or we don’t.”
If you do any research on the shuffle machines everyone uses now, you will find that if management & surveillance are involved and short, subtle targeted attacks are used, they will never be caught cheating by any gaming commission.
Casinos don’t have to bar anyone, they can simply keep ‘cold decking’ them until they quit coming back. I admit to being an over-thinker, but nobody makes any noise about this.
If you’re going to say that they have no incentive, please don’t post. When you’re never gonna get caught, the door is open.
So, we just go merrily along hoping that they like us. The only way they get caught is when someone on the inside becomes a whistleblower and there’s no incentive for that.
So I’m buckled up and ready, tell me what you think.
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If you’re going to say that they have no incentive, please don’t post. . The only way they get caught is when someone on the inside becomes a whistleblower and there’s no incentive for that.
Should have obeyed your own rules then, you have led a sheltered life if you can't see why the last line is false.
The only way they get caught is when someone on the inside becomes a whistleblower and there’s no incentive for that.
You're wrong on these two points. If management was cheating in some way, it's not going to 100% be perfect. A slip up will happen at some point either by malfunction, laziness, or some other cause. Magic acts and government cover ups never stay secret for long so there's no empirical reason to believe that rigged shuffle machines won't get caught eventually.
As to the second point, there is always an incentive to do good and to be good and even science and game theory support it. We all grew up on stories of superheroes doing good in the world and though we can't do as much as they could, we see opportunities in life to do small good deeds, to give up a small bit of our time and energy to make the world a better place. When I was growing up, I wanted to be a Power Ranger. Even outside the suit, a Power Ranger would call out an immoral or evil act at their work place even if it meant harming the shareholders. There is an incentive to be a whistleblower. A quick Google search says that it can give "a sense of purpose, belonging, and mutual respect."
Because they could be caught, casinos face a huge risk in trying to cheat which doesn't outweigh whatever they would gain. But more importantly is that casinos don't NEED to cheat. They make plenty of money running rigged games. They even added another zero to the Roulette wheel, and people flocked to it instead of playing some crappy "European" version of it.
So in live poker, where we are playing against other players & not the house, & where the house takes a rake out of every hand (or timed), what is the casinos incentive to bad beat a player to death so that they don't return?
Also, how would said casino "cold deck" a player as you said? My favorite seats are seats 1 & 8, right next to the dealer, so many times I'm sitting right in front of the Bravo & shuffle master. I've never seen a dealer touch the bravo or shuffler except when a player enters or leaves the table. Or are you thinking that the casino previously marks a players player card as "unliked" or whatever then the shuffle master reads the seat that unliked player is sitting in & proceeds to "Cold Deck" them?
I'm really interested in your conspiracy theory. Please elaborate.
Nobody makes any noise because it's not happening 😉
Totally not worth it for any floor to do this. Time-consuming and just plain old stupid. I doubt it's ever been done unless maybe it's a tiny poker room with lots of regs -- and even then I doubt it's ever been done.
Heck, if I were willing to cheat like that and knew I wouldn't get caught, one of my buddies would be at the table on the winning side!
And if I wanted to get rid of someone, there are easier ways 😉 Oops, I don't know what happened to your name on the list. Well, we called you and you didn't answer.
