The murder of Charlie Kirk
The murder of Charlie Kirk
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The murder of Charlie Kirk

Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?

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10 September 2025 at 06:58 PM
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I at least like that all (both sides!) are finally in agreement that AI is eating up (and will continue to eat up) entry/lower level jobs.

So, when are we going to start seriously talking about UBI? Barring our own Butlerian Jihad, this won’t be sustainable.


by checkraisdraw m

To be fair, and not to say you don’t deserve your position, but a big part of the job market is credentialism, social proof, and demonstrating experience. So it tends to favor workers who got in before entry level positions started requiring 5 years of experience.

I joined my company 5.5 years ago with finance+accounting degrees and zero software experience thought its fair to say a former co-worker did get my foot in the door (social proof)


by coordi m

I joined my company 5.5 years ago with finance+accounting degrees and zero software experience thought its fair to say a former co-worker did get my foot in the door (social proof)

Yep, the social proof can definitely carry. The hiring managers I’ve talked to are pretty open that they only look at a fraction of resumes they receive, and the only way to get yours looked at if it didn’t get through the AI filtering software is by having someone vouch for you.


by whatthejish m

So, when are we going to start seriously talking about UBI? Barring our own Butlerian Jihad, this won’t be sustainable.

Better to let a million rural Cletuses starve than letting just one of these checks going to an illegal or to the lqbqtqftag agenda!


by mongidig m

The way Trump is trending I think Canada becoming the 51st state is basically a done deal.

Want a bet a stack of 1 buy in fixed limit holdem ?


by FreakDaddy m

He's literally dead wrong.The 1964 civil rights act, laid the ground work for the 1965 voting rights act. Do you think black people aren't qualified to vote also? Should they be counted as 2/5ths?You guys are gross.And the thing is... you've all already won... for decades now.You won't compromise on guns. Even though it's very, very, very clear how to remedy the gun violence in

Good post


by ecriture d'adulte m

Better to let a million rural Cletuses starve than letting just one of these checks going to an illegal or to the lqbqtqftag agenda!

This is the exact issue Charlie Kirk most debated people on. And everyone agrees , for whatever reason, the people most interested in helping them are the bad guys ironically because people like me offended their delicate straight male sensibilities one time during a conversation where I didn’t cater to their every whim that they will remember for years not noting the dozens of horrible things they say to me. There was billions from conservatives spent to communicate this :


White males can dramatically improve their lives in America by first decentering themselves. Of course the lower the iq and eq the more that sounds like “woke nonsense”


Hell I’d settle for no college degree white males to vote in just their own economic interest. Especially when they claim to be struggling, which real data does back up.


by ecriture d'adulte m

Hell I’d settle for no college degree white males to vote in just their own economic interest. Especially when they claim to be struggling, which real data does back up.

Right. You would probably think thats a more serious suggestion than “decentering yourselves” because that sounds wokety woke, not that youd disagree those liberal issues have value, they just don’t have the level of importance as voting for your own basic economic interests.

But what I would say is that these people will vote for the trumps of the world forever until they first decenter themselves. Otherwise they have no soil in which to grow that will allow them to accept that they gave their parents hard work over to guys like trump who wear more makeup than me because they find other cultures scary.


by ecriture d'adulte m

FWIW they are losing. The job market for Kirk/MAGA types without the brain processing power to tell you the odds a coin lands heads exactly 2 out of 4 tosses let alone do basic engineering or database work is beyond brutal. The value in just being an incompetent affirmative action white is just not there except for Trump, RFK, Kirk etc. There's just not room for hundreds of

I've always said, there's basically 3 types of people.

Those that can work w/ their hands.

Those that can work w/ their minds.

And those that don't want to work.

There's a rare combo of hands and minds, but much more rare. But you have to, as a society, figure out places for all 3.

We need to find more domestic jobs for people who work w/ their hands, while also focusing on getting them other skill sets. There's a lot of dyslexic people, or people who have struggled in school that just give up early, and refuse to use their minds. We really need to locate those people better, and find skills for them. I know politicians have kind of talked about this, but it's not happening at the level it needs to, in order to prevent this civil unrest.

MAGA right now is mad... but they are mad at the wrong people. If you at least give them better jobs, you can quell this uprising of ignorance.


by spaceman Bryce m

Right. You would probably think thats a more serious suggestion than “decentering yourselves” because that sounds wokety woke, not that youd disagree those liberal issues have value, they just don’t have the level of importance as voting for your own basic economic interests. But what I would say is that these people will vote for the trumps of the world forever until they fir

It’s a little bit weird that the only people not allowed to center themselves in their politics are white people. I’m not advocating for white people to center themselves, but rather that maybe the politics of racial grievance as exemplified by people like Robin DiAnglo has been an absolute failure and toxic for society.

“I don’t see race” may have been a dumb slogan, but doing the opposite of a dumb slogan and saying “I see race in everything” can and has been very toxic. Maybe even more toxic, because people who argue they can’t see race are at least wanting to move directionally to a post-racial society rather than reifying the same racial structures.


by checkraisdraw m

It’s a little bit weird that the only people not allowed to center themselves in their politics are white people. I’m not advocating for white people to center themselves, but rather that maybe the politics of racial grievance as exemplified by people like Robin DiAnglo has been an absolute failure and toxic for society.“I don’t see race” may have been a dumb slogan, but doing

In my mind, this has almost nothing to do with what I wrote. I’m not saying it isn’t tangentially related at all but this is a misunderstanding of how things actually are.

The idea that whites are not allowed to center themselves is false. They center themselves all the time, so much so that its starting to hurt.. When groups like lgbtq and blacks fight for their rights they understand that they have to leave themselves to communicate with different audiences, and not from a position of strength but instead to understand the way things actually are as observers. Straight White men fantasize that when any other group benefits from a policy something is being taken away from them and this fantasy is massaged.


by FreakDaddy m

He's literally dead wrong.The 1964 civil rights act, laid the ground work for the 1965 voting rights act. Do you think black people aren't qualified to vote also? Should they be counted as 2/5ths?He never said they shouldn't vote . I am at least willing to say they are smart enough to obtain a ID You guys are gross.And the thing is... you've all already won... for decades now.Y

Neither party will compromise


by spaceman Bryce m

In my mind, this has almost nothing to do with what I wrote. I’m not saying it isn’t tangentially related at all but this is a misunderstanding of how things actually are. The idea that whites are not allowed to center themselves is false. They center themselves all the time, so much so that its starting to hurt.. When groups like lgbtq and blacks fight for their rights they u

Fight for their rights is question begging. When people were arguing for prison abolition and police defunding as a proxy for fighting for their rights, or preventing parents from knowing if their child was transitioning as a proxy for their rights, these are not clear cut cases of fighting for rights. And when HR trainings involve telling white people that they are inherently racist and suffer from a metaphysical clamp known as white fragility or white rage, that’s not a mere “fighting for their rights”.

In fact I reject the whole concept that groups of people get to determine what “fighting for their rights” looks like and impose it on the rest of society.

If you want to talk about less controversial policies, affirmative action itself was a direct attack on straight cisgender white and asian men in colleges, and that’s not an exaggeration because it was explicitly found to be that by the supreme court. You can’t ignore the data that supports this as people just making a big deal out of nothing, because again you’re just assuming your conclusion.


by checkraisdraw m

Fight for their rights is question begging. When people were arguing for prison abolition and police defunding as a proxy for fighting for their rights, or preventing parents from knowing if their child was transitioning as a proxy for their rights, these are not clear cut cases of fighting for rights. And when HR trainings involve telling white people that they are inherently

Prison abolition and police defunding would benefit everyone in society. When lgbt children stop being abandoned and tortured by their own families for being who they are then you can create a rule that they must be outed to their parents. I dont think white people are inherently racist and have never been in an hr meeting.
you as an individual do get to determine what standing up for your rights looks like and collectively those individuals being discriminated against for their innate qualities that they share with others do determine what kind of “fight” that looks like.


by lozen m

Neither party will compromise

That's 100%, and absolutely not true. The democratic party in my lifetime has ALWAYS negotiated in good faith. It was Newt and Mitch that became the party of no compromise.

How do you have these insane policies currently then? America pays the highest health care cost w/ the worse outcomes. Why?

We have the most open gun laws in the world, and the most mass shootings. Why?

I could go on... but my point is, Republicans have taken these hard positions and have not been willing to negotiate on any of them, even though they are very much about common sense to produce better results for society.

You can deny that all you want, but it is the truth.


by FreakDaddy m

That's 100%, and absolutely not true. The democratic party in my lifetime has ALWAYS negotiated in good faith. It was Newt and Mitch that became the party of no compromise. How do you have these insane policies currently then? America pays the highest health care cost w/ the worse outcomes. Why?We have the most open gun laws in the world, and the most mass shootings. Why?I coul

Gun ownership rate was much higher in the 1970s in the USA. Gun regulation laws were a lot looser back then. But there was far far less mass shootings and no school shootings…The mass shootings issue today is due to depression, overt drug use, the pharmaceutical industry out of control, too much marijuana, too much porn, a deterioration of family and traditional values.


by spaceman Bryce m

Prison abolition and police defunding would benefit everyone in society.

That’s not what people claim though. People claim that these institutions need to be dismantled because they act as racial enforcers in the white supremacist order.

If it was a mere claim of benefiting everyone in society, then what’s the problem with saying “no that’s not the case” and giving my reasons why? But it is a problem, as people will say that I’m not part of the community that is getting supposedly tortured by those policies. Then we have to get into what actually constitutes harm from certain policies and whether the black community or any other actually has a proper claim that having police and prisons is actually racist.

Furthermore, if we do take the position that the black community gets to determine what is fighting for their own rights, which people do we put at the forefront of this discussion? When Eric Adams and other pro-police black people want to advocate for more cops, why do they get called uncle toms and other racialized accusations?

You want to defend this position of determining whose racial rights are effected by what policy by appealing to a circular standard.

When lgbt children stop being abandoned and tortured by their own families for being who they are then you can create a rule that they must be outed to their parents.


If there is child abuse happening, then let that child abuse be prosecuted. I don’t see how allowing someone to change their pronouns, name, and seek gender transition can be considered a legitimate function in a school environment. People will feel attacked as parents because you are intentionally attacking them as parents. Once the standard gets to some arbitrary level for you to feel like it’s ok, then it’s ok?

I dont think white people are inherently racist and have never been in an hr meeting.

With all due respect, when you are advocating for people to say this and tolerating it within your own movement, people will act like you do agree with it because you tolerate it.

you as an individual do get to determine what standing up for your rights looks like and collectively those individuals being discriminated against for their innate qualities that they share with others do determine what kind of “fight” that looks like.

Then you just made an argument for white identitarianism. Unless you can come up with some kind of reason to believe this doesn’t apply to whites?


by TheKnight00 m

Gun ownership rate was much higher in the 1970s in the USA. Gun regulation laws were a lot looser back then.[/B] But there was far far less mass shootings and no school shootings…The mass shootings issue today is due to depression, overt drug use, the pharmaceutical industry out of control, too much marijuana, too much porn, a deterioration of family and traditional val



can wait to see your scientific study that prove marijuana and porn entice people to kill people with guns....


by Montrealcorp m

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can wait to see your scientific study that prove marijuana and porn entice people to kill people with guns....

There are many things to look at…..

I’m providing an opinion that a number of things are playing a role in the existence of school shootings and the astronomical rise of mass shootings in America today. Bottom line mass shootings is a far greater issue in America today compared to the past. And ownership rates were higher in the 1970s and the gun laws were looser in the 1970s compared to today.

Not here to nitpick on one point ….. The person I quoted made some points I agree with like the failures of healthcare in America. I was responding to their point about mass shootings.

Both marijuana and porn can have detrimental effects on many of its users. Sure there are functioning users. Same thing with alcohol but there are also folks who have terrible reactions to alcohol. So it’s the same thing with porn and marijuana.

Here so you don’t have to click on links





Here some links nonetheless

https://nida.nih.gov/research-topics/can....

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PM...

https://www.theviolenceproject.org/key-f...


by Montrealcorp m

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can wait to see your scientific study that prove marijuana and porn entice people to kill people with guns....

In short and as already shown by the links consumption of pornography, and/or marijuana can cause loneliness, depression and anxiety for example. All traits that many mass shooters in America have exhibited.


by TheKnight00 m

In short and as already shown by the links consumption of pornography, and/or marijuana can cause loneliness, depression and anxiety for example. All traits that many mass shooters in America have exhibited.

marijuana always been there....
remember peace and love movement ?

porn ?
meh, there was porn before too u know, just was harder to get.

the 70s were full of drugs and like you said, the shooting were lower at that time.

all you do is try to promote your christian bias ideas to explain any problem in this world.

ps: high school sucks for many and probably more then ever since the apparition of social media that probably can increase anxiety and problems when a kid do something stupid ends up being an internet start to his detriment .
remember star war kid ?

this probably would explain more the increase in anxiety and other **** like suicides ( example , a girl being scared to be found naked on social media picture, suicide herself due to extortion of been menacing of putting her pictures on social medias.) then porn and marijuana.

fwiw once 2 kid decided to shoot and kill many people and becoming a 15m star (1999 at columbine) , it created a precedent, accentuate by internet and social medias and now many kids does a copy cat on it thinking its a good way to go...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_...

It is still considered one of the most infamous massacres in the United States, and it is known for inspiring many other school shootings and bombings; the word Columbine has since become a byword for modern school shootings.


by TheKnight00 m

In short and as already shown by the links consumption of pornography, and/or marijuana can cause loneliness, depression and anxiety for example. All traits that many mass shooters in America have exhibited.

The most reliable predictor of mass shooters is height.


by John21 m

The most reliable predictor of mass shooters is height.

More reliable than sex? I doubt it. I also doubt it's a better predictor than age.


If one was going to look for an environmental factor to explain childhood unhappiness and/or school shootings, I would think prescription drug abuse would be more likely than porn or marijuana. It is actually kind of wild how many kids are on SSRI's and Adderall type drugs right now. I personally know a lot of kids who are on prescription medication, pretty much all boys.

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