The invasion of US states by the US Military...what side are you on?
This is my take.....you have to be an absolute moron to not see the similarities between Germany 1930's and today. Trump has the supreme court in his pocket just like the Nazi's did. Supposedly the US military is going into Chicago any day now although they can't go into Memphis. I am on the side of NOT being passive. Where are the 2nd amendment nut cases? Those cowards are nowhere to be found because they are a bunch of pussy bitches. I say let the brothers in south Chicago give the US military a taste. Opinions?
You’ll just be the first to get imprisoned (or shot) and ppl like you, the aware ones, will be much more needed for later resilience, the operational one. It’s a 10 year long battle ahead you guys
If we ignore humanitarian missions, I would say that one failing of popular media is to properly portray how military deploying personell in a civilian population tends to pan out. I am talking about both fiction and non-fiction. The effectiveness of some things are grossly misrepresented, while tactics involved are often poorly understood.
However, in this case we're more talking of a potential "Rubicon crossing"; a scenario where the military is deployed in an aggressive capacity against civilian populations and institutions. This is often what is misrepresented the worst, to the point of delusion. I guess an analogy is how fistfights are portrayed, both in fiction and non-fiction. It doesn't show that 99% of the time it is just ridiculously pathetic, it hurts, it is confusing, it is stressful, nothing gets resolved, nobody is left improved, and everyone involved will likely be be worse off for wear or worse.
Based on the rhetoric of Trumpistas, I'd say they have a poor understanding of where they can be headed. I don't think the various opposition has a very grounded view of reality on the risks involved either.
One misconception that I see as prevalent is that the conception that the US is headed for a showdown between two sides. I don't see that at all. I see a US executive branch headed towards destroying core institutions of the Republic. The peaceful resistance to this might conceivably manifest as a fight between two sides, but that has not really manifested yet. If it goes beyond that I doubt this what you will see. More likely you will see extreme political fragmentation, based on a mixture of ideology, geography, demographics and opportunity.
To OP - that’s exactly why I advise you to brace yourself. You posted it 4 hours ago, and after 3 hours of silence you got your first reply from a non-American, then your fellow citizen (and not an idiot hence 2+2, just image what Walmart people get from all of this) tells you “nah, it’s not that bad”. Stay low, don’t get caught, prepare
You Americans have never been through this, we eurofags know the drill. You’ll be obliterated. I always looked up to US, didn’t have a chance to visit yet, now they wouldn’t even let me in due to my online presence
An understandable sentiment, but you are playing into the fascist's hands.
Trump sending troops into Democratic cities will spark clashes with the citizenry. Then he's going to say there's a state of insurrection, declare martial law, and block the 2028 elections.
I still like the idea of Trump making Mexico great but not so much the US
Based on the rhetoric of Trumpistas, I'd say they have a poor understanding of where they can be headed. I don't think the various opposition has a very grounded view of reality on the risks involved either.
That's putting it lightly. You send soldiers in mobile armor to take guns. Ted Cruz seems to be the only one who's thinking past the end of his nose with all this. Of course they're ignoring him, eating popcorn and cleaning their ARs while watching ICE videos.
This is my take.....you have to be an absolute moron to not see the similarities between Germany 1930's and today. Trump has the supreme court in his pocket just like the Nazi's did. Supposedly the US military is going into Chicago any day now although they can't go into Memphis. I am on the side of NOT being passive. Where are the 2nd amendment nut cases? Those cowards ar
My understanding is the black community in Washington DC has generally had positive things to say about Trump bringing in extra policing to tackle the crime there.
I understand the political and activist classes of Chicago aren't going to like all the extra policing. And they are creating problems as a result. But you might be surprised that the common people, who are the biggest victims of out of control blue city crime, aren't as hostile.
If we ignore humanitarian missions, I would say that one failing of popular media is to properly portray how military deploying personell in a civilian population tends to pan out. I am talking about both fiction and non-fiction. The effectiveness of some things are grossly misrepresented, while tactics involved are often poorly understood.However, in this case we're more talki
It seems it is actually the leftist activists that are instigating and creating problems. If leftist activists just ignored the troops I doubt anything of note would happen. The troops/police would mostly walk around and be helpful, crime would go down, and the people would be appreciative. This is more or less what happened in DC once you got past all the inflammatory rhetoric.
It is actually leftist activists that are creating most of the hostility and violence. I dont think it is an accident that anytime there is societal organized violence, there is pretty much always a left wing activist group involved, and when they aren't involved nothing pretty much ever happens, with Jan 6th being the only counter example I can come up with off the top of my head.
^this guy
It seems it is actually the leftist activists that are instigating and creating problems. If leftist activists just ignored the troops I doubt anything of note would happen. The troops/police would mostly walk around and be helpful, crime would go down, and the people would be appreciative. This is more or less what happened in DC once you got past all the inflammatory rheto
You think the government should send troops to fix the problem of activists not ignoring those troops?
You think the government should send troops to fix the problem of activists not ignoring those troops?
I dont know what to do. I am just pointing out the description of what is happening doesn't match reality. In most cases, left wing agitators create most of the problems when extra police/national guard/etc. are brought in for extra policing. And when agitators aren't around there isn't any issues at all.
Most of the DC liberals that are hostile in principle to the idea of the extra troops being brought in (but are also honest and aren't going to just lie about what is going on to satisfy their ideology) are arguing the extra policing mostly just seems to be a waste of money, because the officers just stand around a lot of the time not doing anything. They aren't even arguing they are misbehaving in any way, because they aren't. I doubt Chicago would be any different without all the left wing agitators creating problems.
If you think this is some first step down a slippery slope towards authoritarianism, then that is fine. But we shouldn't be lying about what is going on to justify such arguments. What is going on is nothing like 1930's Germany.
Trump is deliberately doing things to bait and provoke left wing activists into misbehaving. But that being said, they are still the ones misbehaving and creating most of the problems.
So if it wasn’t for the “leftists”, it would be ok, yes? Kindly admit that and I’ll rest in peace
Of course Dun is right here. DC crime went down a lot, murder went down, robberies and everything.
I didn’t expect so many idiots on 2+2. Honestly
It seems it is actually the leftist activists that are instigating and creating problems. If leftist activists just ignored the troops I doubt anything of note would happen. The troops/police would mostly walk around and be helpful, crime would go down, and the people would be appreciative. This is more or less what happened in DC once you got past all the inflammatory rheto
This has never been about reducing crime. It's just a warm-up for future operations. Militarizing cities has never worked out well in any country.
Trump's plan is to provoke violence to justify further crackdowns.
The quickest way to piss people off is to send soldiers into their neighborhoods especially when there’s no reason for them to be there. It’s inherently provocative, and Trump and his team understand this. Research by the political scientist Robert Pape shows that the single most powerful predictor of suicide terrorism is the presence of foreign troops on local soil. People hate, hate, hate that. They hate the humiliation, the powerlessness, the feeling of being occupied.
Once citizens begin to view their own government’s security forces as an occupying army, violence becomes inevitable. Trump’s team knows this. In fact, that’s the point. They are not trying to restore order; they’re trying to trigger the very unrest that would justify further crackdowns. In the end, violence serves their ultimate end: They want to create the illusion of disorder so they can tighten control and stay in power indefinitely.

