1/2 fold flush on turn jam?

Tough spot. I like your big bets on the flop and turn, as there is plenty of stuff that can call you. I probably wouldn't bet so big on turn, but it's not bad. But now, we have to consider that we have been betting big so V probably thinks we are strong.

With this action and board, it is a bit hard to find his 2nd best value hands. He shouldn't really have AA or JJ and AJ might 3! sometimes and A4o might fold pre sometimes and J4 should fold, and I don't think 2 pair is all that eager to jam anyway. Not many worse flushes. Could be 44.

Most players are probably not bluffing here either as you can have flushes, AA, JJ, AK with Ks etc.

I think this is a hand where you just have to go with your read or gut. As far as show or no show, if he was semi bluffing with the Ks, or had the nuts, he could show you the Ks. If he has like 9sTs showing a card pretty much gives his hand away. Same with 44.

It's an interesting play to offer him $50 to show, rather than the usual $10 or whatever. If he did have the Ks it would be pretty tempting to take it. That's like 20% of a call.

Was the $50 independent of the pot? In other words, if he took the $50 and then you called and he won, would he still get the full pot +$50?

In reality, I just tend to pay off in these spots. Getting such a good price. But I think it might be a fold. From his POV, the river is going to go check/check somewhat frequently. That, and fear of the board pairing or another spade coming give him a lot of reason to jam a medium flush. Again, I don't think 2 pair really wants to get it in here, but there is a chance he doesn't realize that. 44 makes some sense.

So you beat a small amount of value, and some players are literally never bluffing here. Even for those who can bluff it's a bad spot. We can even reduce some Ks hands like KK and AxKs.

I assume when you say limp raise you meant someone limp called?

Turn is an easy fold, you’re bluff catching.

We've discussed monotone flops before ... there's a free video series by Kanu.
tl;dr You aren't supposed to be betting big postflop.

unless you have the nuts on a monotone board you never want to be piling in money so your bet sizes are way too big. fold now.

Tough spot but correct fold. Without reads of him overplaying draws, your combo draw’s dead vs range.

Yeah, after you bet pot/pot and he raises, it is a fold. It is hard for him to have a lower flush. He could theoretically have a set or a nut flush draw.

I don't know about betting small, but betting pot might not be best, as hard to get called by worse.

I guess it’s just my nature, but I’m taking that FreeCard on the turn and see what villain does on the river which could change everything.

As played, could be 44, could a naked Ks, could be the nuts, could be a stone cold bluff because he thinks you’re FOS.

In trying to make accurate decisions, we need information. When the flop bet gets called, it really tells us nothing & we want to get to showdown. Checking back the turn, I wonder what villain does?

You honestly probably got good information to fold with villain’s raise on the turn. At the same time, it would not be remarkable for V to even be overplaying 2pair if he thought it unlikely you flopped a flush. He might put you on AK. Villain knows you will perceive a check-raise jam as top of the range.

You used a standard aggressive line and a normal fold when villain plays back at you, so I’m not being critical. That’s winning low limit poker. I’m just suggesting that sometimes it’s worth considering that FreeCard.

We're supposed to check or bet small in multi-way pots. We're also supposed to check or bet small on monotone boards. When it's a monotone board and we're multi-way, we're supposed to check or bet REALLY small.

It sucks to flop a flush and have to fold, but I'd look at it as V let us off the hook, and chalk it up as one of poker's many expensive lessons.

Also - don't offer $50 to see one card. He's going to show you a diamond if he does, and you still won't know what to do. Save your money.

Thanks for the illuminating responses! I see the point of betting small monotone and should probably study the Kanu series. During the hand I thought I bet big to get protection against the 4-liner. I guess the hand shows why that is not a good logic. Just keep the pot smallish with a small flush. Also, as people mentioned if I bet small and keep his range wider, then the check-raise is not as scary.

Just to clarify: the 50 was additional but for a random card, not a card he can choose. Any non-spade will give me an auto-call, any low spade an auto-fold (eliminates all one high spade bluffs). I think the information I get is worth it?

i dont play these dumb games just play poker. i find it fairly annoying when people do as well as it slows down the game.

also stop worrying about if you get bluffed. everyone gets bluffed. if you are playing well you should be getting bluffed sometimes. it doesnt happen enough in low stakes to call people down.

Second this. I have made MANY more bad calls than I have bad folds, especially facing big bets. Low stakes opponents as a group just don't have anywhere near enough bluffs to make bluff-catching with marginal hands profitable.

Apologies for the derail but the main imperative for personal insurance is to cover losses that we cannot afford to eat, even though it's -EV. Like if losing the breadwinner means you also lose the house, then it's sensible to consider paying the premium, even though mostly you'd be richer taking the risk.

So fold or raise more preflop. The hand went awry when hero raised and got three callers. At a loose passive table, 67s is the bottom of your range. 67s is barely ev+ because you lose big pots with the baby flush or the dumb-end straight. You want to play it heads-up and in position against known players who fold. You play it for defense and deception, so your opponents wrongly call you when you have aces, not to hit a flush or a straight.

With doc here: at loose-passive tables, when the villain makes a big bet on the flop or the river, fold unless you have the second nuts or a positive read that the villain bluffs big on later streets. By following this single piece of advice I finally grew my bankroll.

Love this.

I wouldn't go pot/pot, but I wouldn't bet small with a flush on a monochrome board because solvers do it. That is playing against perfect play, not low stakes opponents.

He'd have to be an idiot to show you a non spade. If he's an idiot, offer him $5, not $50.

C'mon man.

I wrote that the deal was me picking a random card…

He'd have to be an idiot to agree to that deal if he didn't have a flush.