1/2: Flopped trips facing river xrai

I feel like unless V has exactly Q9 then you’re good.

What's the max buy in? If I can rebuy for $500 I might get curious, if not save your chips and learn a lesson about not over limping with trash.

I don't think your typical $1/$2 is full of people who will complete from small, x/c, x/c, x/jam as a bluff. He has a boat almost all the time, and these passive players might play AQ/KQ this way sometimes. Q3 is definitely in Vs range.

Raise or fold pre to define your opponents ranges. Overlimping is ok with hands that can hit the stone nuts like suited aces. Instead you are 8 hands from the nuts and all the stupid trash that got lucky is in Vs range. How many hands is V bluffing with? I doubt it's very many if any.

Don't like overlimp and flop+turn+river sizes. Even if you raise pre. it's a bit greedy to bet so big with QJ IMO, but at least you can get stationed by worse.
If you limp pre. (it's bad, but you can probably mix it on the BTN) they don't pile money in with QJ post. Mostly because you lose value, but also because of spots like this where you'd be _much_ happier if you had Q9 on the river.

Flop you can kind of explain away as "fish at 1-2 don't care/understand relative pot sizes in limped pots" ... turn you can try to explain away as "JT" is in range, but generally people who limp JT pre. aren't firing massive barrels over two streets into a paired board. And those limpers really aren't firing pot sized bets on the river with air, if you are hoping V will call 9x to bluff catch.

Trips are nice, and often good, but you need reads about what V can/will call with. Due to the limped pot he is very unlikely to have KK or AK that can hero call, so the question is what he does with AQ/KQ/Q9/99 and on the other side QT/Q8/Q7/... or maybe even AJ/AT/AsXs.

So some reads on what he'd complete in the SB would be nice, like:

1. Will he just throw in $1 with Q3s, or even Q3o
2. Will he raise AQ/KQ or just limp?
3. Will he raise 99 or just limp?

Then any reads on the river, like:

4. Will he call JT and then bluff?
5. Will he call Q9/99 and then value shove?
6. Will he "value shove" QT/Q8/..?

IMO I would say most of the 1-2 population the questions #1-3 could all be likely loose passive answers, #4 is unlikely (esp. from a limped pot), #5 is very true, and #6 is maybe true for QT but not worse. So you end up facing a range of some combos of AQ/KQ most of Q9/99/Q3s and say half of QJ/QT.

Good bet, bad runout. Easy fold.

There was no K, 8, or spade ... and if anything the A is one of the better bricks as it's a bit less likely to hit SBs (or yours TBF) range than pretty much all other cards.

Also hitting the A on the turn makes it much less likely that V randomly got to the river with 33, where that's a consideration if the 3 hit the turn.

Apart from a J or a 9 hitting, or an A turn and A river, this is one of the better runouts. Even if it went 3 turn and 3 river, it's still worse than this runout because you'd have to worry if V is shoving with any Q or just Q9.

Rage-fold.

Next time, use smaller sizes, to induce opponents to raise with their nutted hands.

Surprised by all the fold recommendations. I’m calling here all day. V could easily be value betting a worse Q here.

Into H going b/b/b, and almost pot for the last two streets? After limping in? There's triple-barreling and then there's this.

Granted, there may be all kinds of QXs/QTo garbage that a passive SB would limp (like Q9, lol), but I'd think most Vs would bluffcatch vs shove near 2x pot (200 bigs) with it. There's also a few ss combos that might call down---muh SF draw---whiff, then jam. JT/T8/KJ(?), and then maybe the 74ss-ish stuff? Drawing to a lot of it seems bold on a paired board, and H might have Q9 already.

Despite the risk of being tarred with the weaktight brush that's lately popular, I fold to this river bet. Haven't we all commiserated lately about us making way more bad big calls versus these Vs, than savvy, soulreading hero calls?

Thanks all.

Results:

I folded. V later told me he had Q3.

this hand sucks in a multiway limped pot. you're basically hoping to hit a pair, have everyone check to you, and you bet and take down a tiny pot (if you get called you hate life). if you're going to play then raise pre.

This isn’t a great hand but over limps on the btn I’m making it 15-20 pre. I am definitely limping over folding.

River is an obvious fold we only beat bluffs.

This is almost never worse QX. At 1/2, especially if there are OMC's limping in from EP/MP, it wouldn't shock me if one of them showed up with AA that was going for a limp-3B pre, didn't get the chance, then checked the flop and turned top boat. When it's random Randy completing in the SB, his range is ATC, and this will rarely be QT or worse.

The problem with the big bets on early streets is we're folding out all the weak $hlt, and funneling him to the river with all his strong $hlt. If we bet small on earlier streets, his strong $hlt starts to raise at some frequency, and his weak $hlt doesn't fold out as much.

For whatever it's worth, if V shipped for less than pot, I don't know that I could find this fold in a 1/2 game without knowing more about V. When it's for 200BB, it's a pretty trivial fold at these stakes.