PLO50 T876 vs turn bet from passive- fish
I decided to isolate with a marginal hand. I only have 25 hands on Villain, but so far he's 80/8 and has been playing pretty passively. Of course, I'm pretty smashed if he's only betting with 2 pairs + on the turn.
However, is a pair + flush draw + gutter too much equity to give up in a HU pot, especially considering the villain has bet less than pot on the turn?
PokerStars - C$0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 350.48 BB (VPIP: 64.01, PFR: 23.01, 3Bet Preflop: 16.41, Hands: 582)
BTN: 92 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 71.02 BB (VPIP: 38.89, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
BB: 130.22 BB (VPIP: 50.96, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 13.16, Hands: 105)
UTG: 75.82 BB (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 25)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6♣ 7♥ T♠ 8♣
UTG calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 3.5 BB
Flop: (10.5 BB, 2 players) 4♣ K♦ 6♠
UTG checks, Hero checks
Turn: (10.5 BB, 2 players) J♣
UTG bets 8 BB Hero??
13 Replies
I usually fold when someone passive starts betting big so I would usually fold here unless they are a massive station, like calling with 1 pair when the flush hits.
That said I think a call is ok in position against someone who will play face up on river.
pre is atrotious
Agree about pre and turn.
I think betting the flop is better than checking.
I decided to isolate with a marginal hand. I only have 25 hands on Villain, but so far he's 80/8 and has been playing pretty passively. Of course, I'm pretty smashed if he's only betting with 2 pairs + on the turn.
However, is a pair + flush draw + gutter too much equity to give up in a HU pot, especially considering the villain has bet less than pot on the turn?
Yes. Obviously call turn. And I don't like pre, just fold.
Board interaction (the 6) blocking continues, nut gutshot for some robust equity but not so much we waffle between bet-fold and bet-call, and one bd fldr around which we can build some barrel offs (two would be better). Adds up to a bet, imo.
Isoing this hand vs this player is fine imo, but yeah the co being that active makes this a fold
Folding pre but I agree with Munga, once I got to this flop I am betting it.
Turn fold seems fine.
Flop check doesn't really bother me. Obviously we can bet a lot vs super-widerange on this Kxx board, but its a choose-your-preferred-exploit type spot. I don't really like the decision to turn this hand into a bluff too aggressively, especially relative to the range of hands Hero would normally have for this action (instead of light iso). *I'd consider flop bet to be more of a merged strategy, which is still winning and fine vs player described, but that Hero has a bigger edge next 2 steets*
Against this type of player we can also target bet sizings on flop very exploitatively, and bet half-pot with stronger hands, bet 3/4 or more with nutty draws but weaker showdown at present etc.
Hand plays well as a checkback or for a delayed cbet. If I checked back would be willing to fire most turn cards T or lower, and check/giveup most broadway cards. Not sure what I prefer if K pairs.
Implied odds are often higher vs this type of player when Hero makes 2p+ too, and checkback actually protects our range of good, but non-super nutted hands if Hero is willing to cap his range with no cbet.
Poker seems hard for you guys
For me there are many long posts on simple poker decisions and people make things so difficult. It's frustrating to read (thus maybe I should stop).
pre: VPIP:ing this hand will create trouble, so why do it?
flop: Hand is check to me, yeah maybe you can get away cbetting way too much against this fool but just on general grounds it's a good hand to check
turn: You cbacked a hand with some equity, you improve thus the only logical thing to do is to call. Even if his range is stronger that it theoretically should be it's unlikely to be a -EV call.
