Flop the singularity 3BP, do you like my straightforward line?
1/3 NLHE 9 handed
Very late in our session, about to leave and then we decide to play our last free hand (UTG). The game has been heaters and coolers all night and we're up to 700$ from 500$ (1050$ high, 300$ low). UTG 700$.
V - Asian tight passive 2/5 player. Will play 5/10 and PLO sometimes. Is basically studied but veers off towards passive tight lines preferring to trap and not finding enough bluffs. Winning 1/3 player. Covers BB.
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Fish straddles BTN, SB limps, V to 30 in BB, H sees A♠ A♣ UTG and makes it 85, V calls. HU IP.
Flop 180 (615 back) - A♥ K♥ K♣
V checks, we cbet 65, V calls
Turn 310 (550 back) - 5♦
V checks, H bets 175...
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The game has been heaters and coolers all night and we're up to 700$ from 500$ (1050$ high, 300$ low)
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Think you can go a touch smaller on turn to keep in some of the hopeful air. Maybe even small enough that heart draws feel like going for it.
V has KK, doesn't he? It fits the type. I guess AK is possible too. 'Studied TP 2/5 player' should be tight as can be in BB vs BU straddle, even with the idiot in between.
I'd bet even just a little bit smaller on the flop, because that's probably what I would do with a hand like JJ trying to fold out QQ.
Same with the turn. If you bet $100 it will still be less than a PSB shove on the river. He probably has the last A or Kx. Not sure if even Q♥ J♥ raises preflop unless it's shorthanded.
That's a pretty good last free hand. Do they know it's your last hand? Regardless, I like it. Shove river.
If they know, you can go a little bigger pre as if you are bluffing, then bigger flop.
I go a little larger preflop (around $100ish) to offer poorer 8:1 IO, especially thanks to setting up an SPR where it is unlikely we'll be able to fold postflop. Our sizing offered about 12:1 IO, which is still pretty poor, although it is about 50% more than I'd prefer.
I like our postflop line and our sizing has setup a trivial 1/2 PSB shove for the river, nice.
Gnicehand,imoG
Grunch:
PRE - looks fine.
FLOP - seems okay. I suppose arguments can be made for sizing up or down.
TURN - I'd be curious what size a solver would bet here. Against humans, this seems ok. We'll have around 0.5 SPR for the river, which should make for an easy jam, and make it hard for him to get away from trips or better.
It really is. Even more so since you didn't bother to comment on the hand.
Perhaps OP's ups and downs of the session may contribute to his table image, possibly earning him loose action from an otherwise tight player?
I'm speculating, obviously, but OP's reveals are at odds with his reads often enough that I'm open to considering any additional info as potentially being relevant.
Banana, fwiw, this hand feels like one of those that either ends up being an unavoidable cooler or ends uneventfully. If the reveal is V has KK, it belongs in bad beats, inasmuch as it seems unlikely anyone here would find a way to say you did something wrong if you ended up going broke with top boat.
If V has AK, I posted that thread already.
High quality posts like these, where the author really took the time to put an effort in, you really are a treasure.
Result: V folds, I show for high hand bonus (like 100 bucks), V chastises me for betting so large saying I'm unbalanced, I post here to ask thoughts....
Result: V folds, I show for high hand bonus (like 100 bucks), V chastises me for betting so large saying I'm unbalanced, I post here to ask thoughts....
Consistent chastisement from a player with a read of "slow plays big value way too much". It's a flop for getting paid small with almost your whole range, and that's what happened.
Result: V folds, I show for high hand bonus (like 100 bucks), V chastises me for betting so large saying I'm unbalanced, I post here to ask thoughts....
Good, V thinks you're unbalanced with a 50% psb. Now you only have to bluff 50% pot against him. Thank you for the discount.
I see no point in going smaller. QQ and lower isn't putting in more money on this board, QQ one heart is floating hoping to pick up a heart, QJT to maybe do something OTT. The brick kills any backdoors, and none of his weak stuff improved. Weak stuff that doesn't improve isn't calling turn for anything. Maybe an aggressive player we can check back hoping for a blast off bluff OTR, but I'm probably looking for value from the hands that hit flop.
We're looking for value vs Ax and Kx. A lot of Ax should call half pot and is going to have a miserable time folding river. If he folded AQ, we don't correct by betting smaller with this hand, we exploit by betting 50% on the turn with air in future hands. Kx is obviously calling down. A royal draw is calling turn.
So he folded QQ/JJ to you and would probably have folded for $50. Maybe he'd have called $1... if he felt a little spicy.
looks good to me. against that kind of tight/passive dude, small flop + medium turn just prints. if you go bigger he folds everything except Kx anyway. only change I’d make is maybe go tiny on turn too if you think he’ll spaz river with AK or slowplayed KK
FWIW the most I was ever chastised at the table was by a guy who fit VÂ’s description to a T, so nice job by you, banana.
This is a pure idiosyncratic me thing. You 3! another 55 pf, but likely said ‘make it 85’ or just put out 85, didn’t say ‘another 55’.
You cbet 65, which is more than your 3! but less than the total amount raised that round. I always bet at least that previous amount on the next round, but you probably got the most you were going to get so more nice job by you.
Where I play HHs have to see the river.
