AQs facing 3bet

Is the rock always on? If so it’s basically 5-10 and not a large sizing relative to game size. We can peel if we want but I’d rather fold.

So the rock isn’t on every hand? In my rock plo game whoever wins puts out the rock and it’s always on.

Not out every hand. Maybe out 1~3 times an orbit.

What do you make of her sizing? Seems bad if she actually wants a fold, but gives the impression she could fold if jammed on. Seems dumb though to invite MW action with something like QQ/JJ. I mean, even the limper might call this. They already put in 10, knowing V only had 290 back.

You guys are so shallow, any cbet from her is practically going to be a jam. I guess if she wants to give the impression she has AA/KK/AK, she's going about it the right way. AQs does poorly versus that range, so I fold. But it depends on how you interpret her 3!

Sizing looks scary for live. That 105 feels like “please call me.” Easy muck unless she’s shown you she’s leveling recently

Given read, I probably just sigh fold. I don't blame you for a call, though, to see what the flop brings and her reaction to it.

Grunch:

I've played with similar V's. I don't like to get into pre-flop wars with them. Instead, I prefer to drag them into deep waters of late-street post-flop play, where they tend to get lost and make more mistakes.

If her 3B rate has been 0% in 3-4 hours, I'd assume she's going to be strong here. Very strong. If we really have a nit image, she should be insanely strong. When she pot-commits herself by 3B'ing more than 1/3 of her stack, she's never folding to a 4B, or at least, she shouldn't be folding, and I'd think the combination of factors here indicate AA/KK at a very high frequency. If she's "bluffing" with AK, she's ahead, and the best we can hope for is to be flipping with TT/JJ.

Seems like a pretty trivial fold. I might thank her for letting me off the hook. But I'm an a-hole like that sometimes.

That 3-bet sizing is weirdly small, but given her history it’s still pure value. Save the $105 and move on

An alternative line is to just call the straddle. Likely, OOP and AQs flops well multiway. Keeping it small has some merit - this hand can be a trap. I never limp, but a guy ahead calls the straddle, I can call too. It’s different.

Your raise is fine, but either way, you should be hesitant to play for stacks with this hand. Villain has declared (1/3 of stack) she’s ready, despite a nit declaring strength. I don’t think she has AJ.

Only you would know if she had something like 55 - which is still a flip. Pretty easy fold, you must be behind. With better spots & hands ahead!

I would limp in.

And seems like a fairly trivial fold to a 3bet from this player. Against some of her range we're flipping (and yet likely have no FE given she has put 1/3rd of her ~smallish stack in), against other parts we're destroyed, and we're never crushing ourselves (like she never has AJ/etc., right?). Meanwhile we can't put in a hugenormous 1/3rd of our stack to a 1 SPR just hoping we flop well.

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This is one of the reasons I have a very LRR strategy from OOP. If it limps around, whatever, we play a high SPR pot with a disguised hand (and this hand plays awesome in those spots). Meanwhile if someone puts in a raise then we mostly get to 3bet (except versus nit openers) to go after a bunch of good dead money to setup a trivial stack off, especially since people's raising range is >>>>>>>>>>> their 3betting range.

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Fold to the 3b. Raise is fine.

GG - playing AQ in a 7 way limped pot is certainly not "awesome". That's bingo poker and you have to hit a hand.

I am not arguing in favour of GG's idiosyncratic preflop strategy but I'd happily play AQs in a 7 ways limped pot. I'd prefer HU in a raised pot but it's still +EV.

Your turn check lets him value bet super comfortably. I don’t think this is a bluff.

What’s wrong with bingo poker? What if one of the 7 hits top pair and we get 3 streets? Is going set mining also bingo?

Different Mango hand and post. (I agree with Flipz, FWIW.)

Let s/he who hasn't gotten confused before about which post's action applies to which post, throw the first, "LOL.' It's a hazard of the new software which, for me at least on mobile, won't let me see the post or thread I'm replying to.

So, did V end up flipping over the Aizzles or not?

I have zero issues playing any hand in a very multiway high SPR pot because I feel I simply have the tools to play them better than most (plus I mostly limit my mistakes to small ones instead of session defining ones, such as folding the best hand in a small pot, no biggee). And if I get in the LRR, that's printing. Meanwhile, a raise OOP (where we have zero clue how many people are interested in their hand) will often just result in a multiway pot anyways, except with a very difficult to navigate small SPR; I hate this spot, so i avoid it (but that's me).

Ghasbn'traisedahandOOPin8yearsandI'vedone~okG

We ended up folding and no show