KQs 3! OOP
KQs 3! OOP

KQs 3! OOP

1-2 NL. Hero has about 300; both villains cover. Main villain raises a high percentage when limped or raised to. Does not raise real large, but usually more than this time. Have seen him go allin postflop 3 times, with close to the nuts or a big combo draw.

LJ limps, CO raises to 7, hero 3!s to 25 from SB with KdQd. LJ and CO both call. Flop (70) 9s6h4c. Hero cbets 35, LJ folds, CO calls.

Turn (140) is 3s for 9s6h4c3s and goes x/x. River (140) is Js for 9s6h4c3sJs. Should hero bet; if so, how much?

Were flop and turn misplayed?

16 November 2025 at 07:33 AM
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Just c/f flop and then it’s easy.


It seems like a decent flop for my range. It is dry and not likely to hit anyone. I can represent an overpair.


Bet $75 on the turn and give villain the opportunity to fold. Keep representing that overpair - charge ahead until you meet resistance. I think V folds here if you don’t slow down.

V has a wide range (according to your info) but he still doesn’t smash this flop like he would as simply the preflop caller with likely little cards. He’s somewhat capped as A9+ might raise the flop.

If he calls the turn, I would seriously consider representing the backdoor flush and ripping the river. As played, I’m less sure what to tell you.

If I had been V, when you checked the turn, I would’ve bet pot (with whatever) and you would have folded without thinking twice.


No reason to run an airball bluff multi-way out of position with very little equity. Don’t even have a BDFD here. Just check/fold.

I would prefer to 3bet bigger too. I think $35 or even $40 would be reasonable here. He chose a small open size and there is some dead money.


PRE - raise bigger from OOP.

FLOP - just check from OOP, especially multi-way on such a dynamic board.

TURN - check is fine.

RIVER - what hands is he checking back on the turn that we can make fold if we bet? Seems like he's going to have a lot of flush draws that got there, or SDV that was checking back to bluff catch the river. I probably just check-fold here.


Pre: Agree with docvail that we should raise bigger OOP.

Flop: I think you want to at least have a BDFD to go along with your KQ to cbet here into two opponents. I likely just check/fold flop. Even with a relatively strong 3-bet range we're going to have a lot of unpaired over cards on this flop. We're going to want to do a lot of checking in general, including with some over pairs and top set type hands to protect our checking range.

Turn: Check seems good.

River: I mean it's not the worst card to bluff when you arrived here with this line, but you generally want to bluff river with a hand with a higher spade blocker in it. I probably still just give up.


River went x/x. As he checked, he showed. 8c7c. Guess either he didn't pure bluff much or he believed I had an overpair and was check/calling the somewhat dangerous runout.

I guess the flop was dynamic. I thought it was fairly dry. A 3! at 1/2 is JJ+ a high percentage of the time, so I thought it was worth trying to represent that.

Wasn't sure if I should have bet the flop, and as played if I should have bet the turn or river.


3! bigger, check flop like everyone said.

As played - I think bluffs are fine. A big bet certainly puts a lot of pressure on weaker pairs. Smaller bets aren't awful either and may fold out Ax.

But doesn't feel like it matters too much. Hero has small showdown, and maybe even finds some good xr bluffs.


This is the kind of board you go $25 $25 $150

RIP ANL Bill


cbet is a torch


by deuceblocker m

River went x/x. As he checked, he showed. 8c7c. Guess either he didn't pure bluff much or he believed I had an overpair and was check/calling the somewhat dangerous runout.I guess the flop was dynamic. I thought it was fairly dry. A 3! at 1/2 is JJ+ a high percentage of the time, so I thought it was worth trying to represent that. Wasn't sure if I should have bet the flop, and

Pretty fortunate that he didn't bet.

Deuces, if it makes you feel any better, I tried to recreate this spot in a solver the other night and at least if you were heads up a cbet did not look bad with your hand. Against a single opponent with a condensed range the solver was actually betting 2/3 pot 84% with your entire range and only checking 14%. It was never using the 1/3 bet size (I only allowed for 1/3 or 2/3 pot flop sizes).

KQs with a backdoor FD was betting the vast majority of the time, but even your hand was betting more than half the time.

If KQ did bet flop it was continuing barreling most of the time on this turn and river.

Now obviously things are quite different against 2 opponents compared to the heads up sim I ran. I still would probably only consider betting against two opponents with at least a BDFD.

Judging from the solver solution though barreling could be better than a lot of us were thinking, especially considering humans tend to overfold.


Blast the turn if you’re going to cbet the flop. Checking to give up seems just too weak. Opponent will have a hard time calling a big turn bet even with TP since they have to be afraid of TT+. So you’re only worried about sets, some of which would’ve raised flop and let you know.

Bet smaller on flop, and blast turn.


Maybe better to cbet smaller and bet big on turn. I can't see how a cbet is that bad here, because I am representing 99+ and often they both have high cards. The bet I made will go through close to 1/3 of the time to make it profitable.

Maybe I bluff too much. I have experience playing tournaments, where people play weak/tight more, as opposed to cash games where they don't want to fold.


if youre going to check this turn cbetting flop is burning money

personally i just check the flop. there are not enough turn cards worth barrelling. if you had a backdoor fd then cbetting is ok

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