The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

Would you say accusing people of putting Canadians second is....checks notes...."very dishonest"? I mean go ahead quote something I've said that "puts Canadians second". Wern't you the dude that keep accusing me of being a boomer and "gramps" after repeatedly being told that's multiple generations wrong? Sorry, your "just be honest" shtick aint landing buddy.

Lol, ok. Of course back in reality the Trudeau era suite of policies are mostly just "business as usual". One can quip about slightly more or slightly less deficits or slightly more or slightly less on the environment or slightly more or slightly less on immigration, but trying to say "irreparable damage" and accusing anyone who thinks Trudeau is better than the dud Poilievre as a "cultist" is pretty silly. Like my big shocking cultish take was that Canada should GASP do just a little bit on climate change and the carbon tax is doing just a little bit and we ought to do that. CULT.

Indeed, this is why you've got it exactly backwards. I'd have liked politicians to do the right but politically inconvenient thing which is to maintain the effective policy that was the carbon tax. Unfortunately, Poilievre's lies about it being responsible for so much inflation etc sunk it and metastasized - helped in no part by ennui about Trudeau - and so even now that we know they were all false and removing the carbon tax accumulated over years in one fell swoop barely dented inflation in a single quarter, it's too late.

Just lol at communist. Like dude I supported the market based carbon tax, originated as a conservative attempt to use market pricing. A tepid and modest one, I'd add. LMAO at communist.

You guys really will throw that term out at anything these days huh.

lol…

You are a boomer and you are Canadians second. This much is proven by everything you say and yes, you like being dishonest. Constantly quoting people out of context or even better just straight up making up nonsense.

Saying it was ''just an accident'' is a lie. It's fine if you don't know, just don't say anything. If you do know, you are putting Canadians second for the sake of being politically correct.

I would respond to this all but honestly, it's just nonsense from a Trudeau fangirl.

Lol dude you can’t make up multiple nonsense in a row and then try with a straight face to accuse anyone else of dishonesty. This whole boomer schtick from you is just so randomly stupid. I’d focus on what you do best, highlighting the bad bad immigrant who did bad bad things. At least if I was a bit more drunk your fabrications would be a bit funnier.

So just to be clear, if this issue gets sorted out and something is done to low prices of beef and people cheer including liberal voter farmers they belong to a cult?

Saying the carbon tax didn’t increase the costs and thus didn’t add to inflation is on par with Trump saying tariffs do not increase the cost of goods to consumers

I know you're not actually this stupid so I'm going to ignore this.

You voted for Trudeau and to this day defend his economic policies. Yeah, you are Canadians second.

Which economic policy are you mad at that I’ve defended ITT? I did defend his environmental policy of the carbon tax. And I supported some of his social policies like I think we should do more on daycare and and dental. But economic, I’m not even sure which policy you think you are referring to. Is this more of a hurrr durrrr days are bad gotta blame Trudeau kinda thing?

Does your grocery asked feel dramatically cheaper to you? No?

We’ve linked the analysis before. Removing years of carbon tax increases in one fell swoop led to a small decline in one quarter of the inflation reports (which was still a net positive). It’s not that it had zero effect, it’s that MOST of the food price inflation over the last 4 years had nothing to do with the carbon tax. The lie was to blame it as if it was a top contributor. It wasn’t. You could pretend before, but we know it for sure now that it wasn’t removed and prices stayed sky high and actually increased further.

This right here is why everything you say should be ignored. The constant minimizing of very real things is just hilarious at this point. There is absolutely no disputing that Trudeau's economic record is worse than any long-serving prime minister in recent history. Of-course ******s like you will blame it all on Covid but you can't blame a decade of stagnation on Covid.

It's funny how your side is too stupid to realize that your constant gaslighting and minimizing of very real social issues is what caused the rise of the extreme right.

Ok so I asked what economic policy you thought I defended and the response seems to be some word salad about how bad Trudeau is with literally zero specificity as to what policy you are talking about. Heck, I might agree with you, contrary to your assumptions I'm generally mixed on Trudeau economic record and my support of the Liberals focused more on things like environmental policy. But as always we get these posts that are like ramped up to 11 in outrage and down to 0 in specificity.

That's arguably even worse. Voted for Trudeau because of a few environmental policies but totally fine with the economic disaster that was the Liberal administration. Who cares if Canadians visit food banks in record numbers, as long as we reduce greenhouse gas emission let them all starve!

If you can actually say I am generally mixed on Trudeau's economic record your a cultist . There is nothing he did you can defend.

Bolded sounds like you are a member of a cult. Like if you can't think of a single thing you agree with ever, I'd say that satisfies being in a cult.

For instance, he lowered the income tax for the 2nd bracket. Did you agree with that?

No specific policy mention? Shocker. I reject your basic framing here, which seems to be precisely what I said "hurr durr things are bad blame Trudeau". Sorry, you need to do more work than that. What specific things are you mad at that Trudeau did that led to various bad economic indicators - I might agree or I might disagree it depends on the policy.

Why would we discuss a specific policy when it all was a disaster? He ran on how bad Harpers economy was and then produced a worse economic record than Harper did and somehow managed to have worse growth than him. Go ahead, name a policy that will make that dumpster fire look good.

You can reject what ever you want. Wont change reality or the truth behind what you are.

Yep, this is the ******ism that is UKE for you. Reduced tax for the 2nd bracket, sure. Also removed a bunch of tax credits resulting in a higher tax burden for the middle class. So as per usual, Trudeau made things worse, not better.

Go ahead. Deny it.

No he was already giving those folks a income redistribution payment

Perhaps the most substantial choice Trudeau made on taxation was to MAINTAIN the harper era corporate tax cuts that exploded the deficit (and a big chunk of our problems today). Rightly or wrongly, this represents economic continuity and similarity with Harper, not the other way around. And this continuity continues to both most of Poilievre's campaign plans and Carney's current plans - none of these politicians are radically changing the economic foundation of Canada and the truth is they have less influence than basically all of them suggest.

Right. So basically Trudeau did a small tweak to the code. Carney did another small tweak. Poilievre proposed a small tweak. Harper did a small. Personally I like simplifying the tax code and think it's better to have a flatter tax break and remove a smorgasboard of little exemptions you have to keep track of and prove to the CRA each year, maybe you disagree. Additionally, the largest impact exemptions that were removed were things for families, but then Trudeau significantly expanded CCB and daycare to help families so again you have to be careful about which columns you claim are being cancelled. Heck Harper's late income splitting policy was bad imo, but it actually would have personally benefited me. But again the message out of this is continuity with small tweaks, not radical change.

Can you be a bit more specific - as was asked multiple times - what are the policies you are most upset about on the economic front. I might agree or disagree, it really depends.

I don't know what you are talking about.

so by how much the carbon taxed added to inflation ?

carbon tax got eliminated in april.
inflation rate was 1.7

https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/infl...

so explain to me genius lozen why the inflation rate never went below the april inflation rate ?
ho yes forgot, people got their money back during the carbon tax....
poor lozen.