Are we supposed to play this hand?
2/2 5 to call 8 handed
Btn rock straddle to 10
Fish in sb limps
Hero in KK64ds limps in utg
some limpers
An aggro player opens for 75. His range should be fairly wide, at least we should be ahead a decent amount of time?
Fish in sb calls
Effective is about 500~700ish
6~700 vs aggro player
about 500 vs Fish
Do we 3bet? call? fold?
If we call there will be gazillion of players. We only hope to hit a set.
If we 3bet, aggro player and fish have very little fold equity. They most likely call and put us on aaxx.
Or do we fold in this spot?
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Seems like a perfect opportunity to pot and push our equity. This hand does fine in a low spr, 2 or 3 way pot. Being double suited is huge, having a little connectivity helps.
If we limp call, like you say, we can only continue with a set or some other specific dream flop.
It’s high variance and we’re going to bust a lot, but I’m a nit degen at heart.
Seems like a perfect opportunity to pot and push our equity. This hand does fine in a low spr, 2 or 3 way pot. Being double suited is huge, having a little connectivity helps.
If we limp call, like you say, we can only continue with a set or some other specific dream flop.
It’s high variance and we’re going to bust a lot, but I’m a nit degen at heart.
Say we 3bet, they both call.
Since spr so low, are we shipping every flop including Axx flops?
obv 3bet. You should certainly c/f some A-high boards. Why are you limping in the first place though?
Every KKds opens in every position.
You definitely want to raise and hope the pot gets heads up or 3 ways at worst - limping is better than folding I guess, but raising ideal. The DS makes this hand more appealing but still not something you want to go 5 way with as even when it comes Kxx it'll be hard for others to have strong hands.
In game I thought about 3betting then ended up mucking and waiting for better spots.
Like 5~6 way to the flop
flop 333
aggro player bets like 110
fish x/ship
all folds
fish shows kk64 no suits for the same hand.
Then a few orbits later, similar setup except fish sits behind me now and they only have 2~300
We limp AA9sjs in utg and same situation we 3betted get it in
fish coldcalls w/8536r for 200
aggroplayer didn't show and said he knew I had aaxx for limping 10$ in utg
The odds of AA is around 1 in 40, at an 8 handed game when you have KK the odds of someone else having AA is about 1 in 5.
With the actions taken (fish limp calling, several over limpers, opener is aggro) it’s probably even less than that.
